Miriam Margolyes - Australia

Volver, not sure if you think you are contradicting me? The guys we spent evenings with knew their history and all related content inside out. They disputed the demise of the Tassie Aborigines (as they were called then), but it was accepted that the 'pure blood' line had been killed by the arrival of the 'settlers'. Joe was very committed to trying to right a few of the wrongs. He and his wife and sons, young when we knew them, supported him in his quest to preserve the land as it had been. He stopped FWDs tearing up the coast and destroying important sites. He was a man of honour and the Tasmanian Aboriginal people knew that and appreciated his huge efforts. The abalone cooked by them (but not, unfortunately Joe 🤣) were amazing. His were good for soling your shoes but little else.

Good actress, tho haven't seen her in much. Vulgar language bores me. I just stop listening.

I only actually watched her on youtube a few weeks ago, as I hadn't ever watched anything.

I watched her on the Graham Norton show.

She was a bit on the edge of outrageous a couple of times, but I found her quite sweet and kindly.

The trouble with people who think they know everything is that they spoil it for those of us who do...

I think she comes across as a kind woman and, although I think she is quite coarse sometimes, I like her.

No, I don't know everything. But if I do know something and if somebody else thinks they know better, I feel its my public duty to educate them... 🤣

(joke folks, joke)

volver Does it ever occur to you that you don't know everything or ... shock horror ... you may be wrong?

The death in 1876 of Truganini, a Tasmanian Aboriginal woman who had aided the resettlement on Flinders Island, gave rise to the widely propagated myth that the Aboriginal people of Tasmania had become extinct.

www.britannica.com/topic/Tasmanian-Aboriginal-people

Its reassuring to think that aborigines aren't around any more so European settlers have nothing to worry about, there's nothing they can do. If people think they are having lots of money spent on them and they have all the same opportunities as everyone else, that's very comforting.

The truth can be a bit different.

In 1876 the last full- blooded Tasmanian aboriginal princess called Truganini died, the rest of her people having been either killed by the settlers or dying from the diseases they brought with them. When we lived out there for several months we stayed in the North West tip of the island, on land owned by a splendid man called Joe. Joe was part of a farming family, but decided to donate his land to the legacy of the Tasmanian Aborigines. The shore line was littered with old middens and evidences of where they had lived. Joe was good friends with the people who had some original people's blood, mostly crossed with the sealers who came to the land. We met these folk too and not surprisingly they were very passionate about their history. The Margoyles programme seemed very superficial and was also disappointingly lacking in showing any of the beauty of Tasmania, with pristine wilderness and incredible landscapes, along with the poverty that exists in some communities there. DH taught in one of the privileged schools whilst we were out there and we certainly saw a mix of people and circumstances.

she is certainly a divisive figure

That's nice.

I guess the aborigines she interviewed in Tassie about how they had been sidelined by the government, they were just "plants" then.

Volver i do not need to tske advice from a TV programme about Aborigines in Tasmania as i have more authoritative contacts than a money making programme starring Ms Margolyes.

There are no Aborigines left in what was Van Diemen’s Land , now Tasmania.

There are. Maybe you should watch the program. You might learn something.

So Miriam is an Australian having taken citizenship. Like many countries mistakes were made by the British colonisers. There are no Aborigines left in what was Van Diemen’s Land , now Tasmania. I listened to her long book despite her potty mouth and enjoyed it. However, I get the impression that she often talks about subjects where “ a little knowledge is a dangerous thing” I went to uni in very British Adelaide ( grows some of the best wines in the world in the Barossa Valley not many miles from Adelaide) where is is not very British. Now I do know of what I speak. From early 1957 until the end of 1959 I lived on an Aboriginal settlement.We were
called Welfare officers but we were really teachers. Look up Areyonga which is where we served. It was well over 100 miles from Hermannsberg Mission and double that to Alice Springs. I want you to know that Australia mended it’s ways. It spends a lot of money on Aboriginal welfare. My son who was born in 1954 visited Areyonga this year and things had changed drastically. He tracked down some young girls who remembered the 1950s. Just know that Aborigines do get opportunities these days. I would think Miriam became Australian because her long term partner is from Australia. Seeing other travel programmes starring this indomitable woman she is making sure they are financially comfortable the older they become. My understanding is that she still lives in London. I may have lived in Australia for years but never consider myself Australian but I do know they are straight talking people and their attitude towards those who winge is to tell them they can always leave the country. British Colonisers made the mistakes but not today’s Australians.

She’s a good actress and I do think all this rude potty inappropriate language is attention seeking from a decent actress. I find her rude and inappropriate always trying to shock. Such a pity.

I won't be watching. I really don't like her. She behaves like a 10 year old boy who has just discovered bodily functions and lavatory jokes. It's become her gimmick and it's pathetic in my view.

Really liked her for years but won’t watch her now since seeing that Marigold Hotel prog years ago. So pushy and not nice to the lovely Rosemary Shrager, put me right off.

another one here who can't stomach her

I mostly like her plain speak, and usually agree with her. Not so DH. But whatever, we both adore her Flora in Little Dorrit.

It must be awful to go out for a meal to have people staring at you all the time. Rushing you for selfies and autographs. Even when being polite. The famous miss out on privacy I suppose. All part of being famous.

One of the Gallagher brothers was in a restaurant in Ibiza, and the other patrons all burst into the song. Wonderwall. Not sure he was totally happy about it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eZ-mXvuAcU

Not the easiest song to sing along to.

I find her very crude so didn't watch. I do admit she's a great actress though.

I loved it. She can be rather outspoken at times but on the other side of that isn’t she just being honest about what she thinks? It was interesting - I don’t think she could make it ‘more in depth’ because the programme time doesn’t allow for that. I completely understand why some people don’t like some of the things she says but if you can see past that I believe she’s very interesting and also very interested in others.

volver

^How not to win future fans.^

She's 80 and probably doesn't care.

She probably doesn’t, but manners and politeness cost nothing…

I won’t be watching, I really don’t like her and find her very coarse at times.

How not to win future fans.

She's 80 and probably doesn't care.