Happy Valley

Callistemon21

Would any child want to know that he was born as a result of rape? How does she begin to tell him that?

Also, I seem to remember that Catherine took on the responsibility of Ryan as a baby, but partly out of a sense of duty. I think in series one, her feelings towards him were a bit conflicted. Didn’t the husband leave her over it, he couldn’t accept him (Ryan)?

( I haven’t re-watched the first two series, and my memory might be incorrect).

I'm not saying it's easy but surely Catherine can "do" hard conversations and surely a conversation about not how someone is conceived but how they grow and who they become is more useful than shutting him out.

I also don't understand why James Norton is seen as a heartthrob.

He has an "empty-headed" look to me!

Would any child want to know that he was born as a result of rape? How does she begin to tell him that?

I don't understand why, now it's in the open re the visits, Catherine was unable to say more to Ryan about his dad.
She kept saying "trust me" and "believe me". She didn't say, yes, your mum took her own life. Ryan isn't a baby now. She could have done more here.
I find her frustrating sometimes.

I keep expecting Nevison to turn out to be Mr Big!

He has that kind of face - blue-eyed innocence but menacing.

He's probably lovely in real life 🙂

Daniel is in a relationship with Anne - I must have missed that but as I thought he was married to someone else.

It's confusing, too, because George Costigan, who plays Nevison Gallagher, often plays a baddie!!

Oops, cross post Callistemon

The guy inside the house is Catherine's son. Everyone is linked to everyone else!

The actor playing Neil is playing a pirate in another series on TV at the moment. A very different character. I am permanently confused!

He is Daniel Cawood, Catherine's son, uncle of Ryan.

So re the bit where Anne is sitting in the garden with her father, who was the guy inside the house? Was it just her partner or is he related to Catherine? My memory must be failing as I can’t seem to remember a lot of the last series…I’ve looked on Mumsnet as referred to above but there’s so many posts.

Luckygirl3

*Anne and her father Nev* - I have come into this series late - who are these people?

You really need to start at the beginning as the story thread is ongoing. Series 1 is on BBC iPlayer.

Annie was kidnapped and raped by Tommy. Her dad is Nev who was blackmailed . Catherine cracked the case and rescued Annie
Nev permanently grateful.

Not sure if we know the woman is dead yet, maybe she will survive (maybe not) .

Cannot believe we have already had 3 episodes, seems to have gone so quick after such a long wait.

Anne and her father Nev - I have come into this series late - who are these people?

Looks like 6 episodes

I watched episode 2 followed by episode 3 last night, and am I correct that episode 4 is the last one? An awful lot to resolve: a court case, a possible murder, gang warfare, and emotional issues between grandmother and grandson and great aunt, not to mention dad. My feeling is that the filmed material has been condensed, rather badly, into four episodes rather than five or even six, which is sad as it as a complex story and would benefit from more exploration.
And why do they persist in filming scenes outside in the dark?

Iam64

Maggie maybe, many thanks for this news from Mumsnet. I’ve not ventured recently.
I thought Ryan was dismissive of Tommy when talking with Neil after the prison visit, asking why he said such stupid things like about bungee jumping when he knows it won’t happen. Ryan has Catherine’s genes as well as Tommy’s, plus she’s raised him so has life long influence , even though she may not feel it currently.

Yes, I noticed how dismissive he was of Tommy's suggestion of bungee jumping together one day.
Ryan said that by the time Tommy gets out "he'll be 80 and I'll be 60".

Wow! The latest episode was an all action one.Watched it a short while ago this evening as am recording to watch when we want to, and we were glued to our seats.Hard not to give spoilers but the scene with the pharmacist and neighbour was electric and great acting from everyone.👏🏻👏🏻

Maggie maybe, many thanks for this news from Mumsnet. I’ve not ventured recently.
I thought Ryan was dismissive of Tommy when talking with Neil after the prison visit, asking why he said such stupid things like about bungee jumping when he knows it won’t happen. Ryan has Catherine’s genes as well as Tommy’s, plus she’s raised him so has life long influence , even though she may not feel it currently.

I had to resort to a Mumsnet thread to find out who was sitting having the intense conversation on the garden bench (Anne and her father Nev - I hadn’t recognised either of them). While I was there I saw a theory that Ryan isn’t as naive as he seems and is plotting revenge on Tommy Lee. I do think he’d have been googling TL for years and will know just how awful he is.

Great acting from all. A contrast to that wooden numpty playing the inspector in Death in Paradise.

Calendargirl I think the actor playing the pharmacist has a very mobile, expressive face.
This might cheer you up

That’s what I thought

Has Neil got history with Tommy? The way Tommy sent him off to get brews suggests so