well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

OnwardandUpward

Do you not think W&K have enough to deal with at the moment having all the nonsense from H? Obviously not since you condemn their parenting and their youngest child.

(While completely ignoring that H has put his actually at risk from the Taliban and admits to taking drugs still.)

Thankfully we don't still live in an age where kids "should be seen and not heard".

I don't think "kids should be seen and not heard" I do think children should be protected and sheltered from public scrutiny until they are old enough to recognise what is involved. I think it is exploitation to use your children to further or promote any organisation or institution. There are very strict laws for children involved in other activities that expose them to the public to prevent such exploitation. I don't understand why royal children can't have the same protection.

G
As I said autistic isn't a term I would use,
but you’re happy to use terms like dysfunctional and scapegoat child for a family you don’t know anything about except what you read in the media.
You don’t see that as being the slightest bit hypocritical . . .

Glorianny

For all of those commenting about his desire for money you do know that £1.6mill is going to Sentebale from this and £300,000 to Well Child. So arguably it is a philanthropic venture.

And how much to Penguin Random House?
We have the option of not spending £14 and directing a donation of our own choosing.
Barnados does great work with young children who are the main carers for parents.
My point is that we the ordinary, the little people, the subjects have agency in our own lives.

Well said, Casdon.

This thread started out as a good discussion regarding Prince Harry’s ITV interview.

I think it is very dangerous to diagnose mental health issues through the medium of TV, especially as I doubt any posters are close to PH or any other members of the RF.

Glorianny

OnwardandUpward

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

It's the family choosing to expose him to the public view .

Can't see what my memories have to do with it.
All 4 year olds misbehave most of them aren't sitting in front of a huge crowd and don't have their actions recorded for posterity.
Having seen the damage done to his brother through public exposure throughout his childhood you would imagine William would be a little more protective.
How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

We are now in the realms of fantasy. When they were four or so there were also similar ‘misbehaving’ pictures of the other Windsor children, sticking their tongues out, acting up etc. it’s just what children of that age do, it’s not specifically scapegoating Louis. Honestly, what people don’t know they make up on this thread.

tickingbird

Glorianny I fully admit to saying Louis would probably cause trouble, that's what scapegoat children often do. The point is that the trouble is not their fault it is the dysfunctional family's fault. Treating the child does nothing. He (or she) is simply replaced.
So you have decided that Kate and William are dysfunctional parents and that Louis is their scapegoat child? Based on what evidence? A 3-4 yr old boy fidgeting and getting restless at a long, boring (for a child) public event? What utter nonsense. It’s typical behaviour and there’s been absolutely nothing to suggest his family scapegoat him!

I believe your post was deleted and I don’t have time to trawl through past threads and if it’s deleted it won’t be there anyway!

You can believe what you like. I haven't had a post deleted. As I said autistic isn't a term I would use.

I know what H says. There’s a difference between what he says and what I believe. And I have never bought newspapers to read about the RF, nor have I ever bought a‘celebrity magazine’, so no guilt here.

Do you not think W&K have enough to deal with at the moment having all the nonsense from H? Obviously not since you condemn their parenting and their youngest child.

(While completely ignoring that H has put his actually at risk from the Taliban and admits to taking drugs still.)

Thankfully we don't still live in an age where kids "should be seen and not heard".

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t buy the claim that H has been damaged by public exposure throughout his childhood. All the senior royals have been the subject of public interest throughout their lives.

So didn't you hear him say that the best thing about being in the army was that the press couldn't get to him?

I do think a lot of the repudiation of public exposure damaging children stems from the realisation, that demanding royal children become public figures, is the fault of ordinary people who buy the papers, and think they have a right to see them.

I don’t feel bad Glorianny, so have no need to feel better. Maywalk is an ordinary widowed lady in her 90s who might well benefit from the proceeds of her writing. I have not seen inaccuracies here about the profits from H’s books. The fact remains that the charities are receiving a tiny proportion. Try considering the difference between Maywalk’s generosity and H’s, and admit that it’s vast.

Glorianny

OnwardandUpward

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

It's the family choosing to expose him to the public view .

Can't see what my memories have to do with it.
All 4 year olds misbehave most of them aren't sitting in front of a huge crowd and don't have their actions recorded for posterity.
Having seen the damage done to his brother through public exposure throughout his childhood you would imagine William would be a little more protective.
How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

The same as any child.

He's not doing anything wrong. He's just being his age.

Glorianny I fully admit to saying Louis would probably cause trouble, that's what scapegoat children often do. The point is that the trouble is not their fault it is the dysfunctional family's fault. Treating the child does nothing. He (or she) is simply replaced.
So you have decided that Kate and William are dysfunctional parents and that Louis is their scapegoat child? Based on what evidence? A 3-4 yr old boy fidgeting and getting restless at a long, boring (for a child) public event? What utter nonsense. It’s typical behaviour and there’s been absolutely nothing to suggest his family scapegoat him!

I believe your post was deleted and I don’t have time to trawl through past threads and if it’s deleted it won’t be there anyway!

Mollygo

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yes GSM but that doesn’t count for . . .

Does Maywalk have huge security costs? Has her life been threatened?
Do her profits benefit charities to the tune of millions?
I'm sure it's very good of her. But once again it is nothing to do with the fact that here are inaccuracies on these threads about the profits on the books.
Just try admitting that money for those charities is a good thing. You will feel so much better..

Germanshepherdsmum

He seems like a pretty normal four year old from what I’ve seen - which is no more or less than others here have seen.

Yes, he seems normal, not an automaton as some would like to see.

Yes -he appears to do what most 4 year olds do. My DGC love to look at videos of them when they were younger.
It’s only if clips of Louis are turned into something unacceptable by public criticism that they will be problematic.

I don’t buy the claim that H has been damaged by public exposure throughout his childhood. All the senior royals have been the subject of public interest throughout their lives.

How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

And how would he feel if he was not allowed to go to events such as his Great-Granny's concert because he might misbehave but his brother and sister are allowed?

"I'm just the third child, the spare to the spare, kept away from all the fun" he might moan in future.

FGS Glorianny he will no doubt laugh and say ‘I was a right little monkey’ or similar.
They are a family and of course choose to have him with them, as a royal child he will become used to boring events given time.

He seems like a pretty normal four year old from what I’ve seen - which is no more or less than others here have seen.

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yeah, a pittance for sure since he got 20 mill dollars as an advance for books.

OnwardandUpward

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

It's the family choosing to expose him to the public view .

Can't see what my memories have to do with it.
All 4 year olds misbehave most of them aren't sitting in front of a huge crowd and don't have their actions recorded for posterity.
Having seen the damage done to his brother through public exposure throughout his childhood you would imagine William would be a little more protective.
How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

Glorianny

eazybee

'..... the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement'.

Unforgiveable to use Harry's problems to attack, again, a four year old child.

The point about the scapegoat child is that it is never the child's fault so I'm not attacking Louis. The fault lies with the dysfunctional family who instead of tackling their problems choose to blame one member.

What you say makes no sense.
Louis’s family are not blaming him.Ok so the media like to get a pic of a child either fidgeting or misbehaving at a royal occasion, so what?
Why are you pushing this scapegoat child thing onto Louis? He’s a young child and sometimes plays up, we’ve all been there!

Yes Mollygo, we mustn’t make comparisons as they are irrelevant.

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yes GSM but that doesn’t count for . . .