well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

I gave up part way through it was just, same old, same old.

How he can expect King Charles to communicate with him after he has seriously rubbished Camilla I don’t know.

I suspect he and M have had their moments of spotlight and they will gradually become old news.

The UK press do have a reputation ,though, as being one of the worst in the world. Possibly they don’t get sued often enough and get away with things they wouldn’t either in the US or here.

Blondiescot

*"Most of the press in this country are evil."* Wow, that's quite the statement, but it's easy to resort to blaming the messenger.
You're clearly aiming your vitriol at certain national tabloids, when in fact, the vast majority of the press in this country consists of local and regional papers just going about their daily and weekly business.

Well of course I'm not having a pop at the local papers and yes I do have vitriol at the tabloids. Do you phone hacking a murdered girls phone so that her parents think she's alive is not evil? Do you not think what the media did to the bereaved families of Hillsborough evil? The messenger has shown itself to immoral and corrupt.

FannyCornforth

I know

That was to WellsRose
This thread is moving too fast.
I’m giving it a rest for a while!

I know

WellsRose

FannyCornforth

I don’t recall Charles doing anything akin to what Harry is up to.
In fact, I don’t recall anyone going off on one so ballistically

There were interviews by both Charles and Diana in the 90s. Both admitted to having affairs and being miserable in their marriage. Harry would have been a young boy but old enough to know what was happening I'm surprised you don't recall it but I was in my 20s so you may be younge. I remember it being explosive but of course we didn't have social with all its anonymous keyboard warriors making it an even bigger story.

Charles and Diana didn't write books or do interviews for money

FannyCornforth

‘His dad never loved him’! Really?

Is that to me because I didn't say that.

Thank you lemsip

"Most of the press in this country are evil." Wow, that's quite the statement, but it's easy to resort to blaming the messenger.
You're clearly aiming your vitriol at certain national tabloids, when in fact, the vast majority of the press in this country consists of local and regional papers just going about their daily and weekly business.

FannyCornforth

WellsRose I am quite aware of the events in the 90s. I was in my 20s. Whatever Charles and Diana did or didn’t do, I maintain that it wasn’t on the scale of this. That’s all.

Maddy I agree with what you have written regarding the state of Harry’s mental health.
He’s given it (MH) much lip service, but doesn’t actually seem at all self aware.
It’s really worrying what the end game will be

You don't think knowing that the future King saying that he didn't love his wife and made fake vows in church was cause of concern. Do you think that Harry challenging the press has caused them to make this more sensational.

charles spencer advised harry to 'take it slowly' with meghan after william asked him to talk to harry

FannyCornforth

‘His dad never loved him’! Really?

Sorry, I misread that. I’m all over the place today

‘His dad never loved him’! Really?

I wonder if Harry is close to his uncle Charles Spencer? I wonder what he thinks? Ditto John Major

tickingbird

^No delusional at all. Felt things very strongly, yes, certainly not "right" about everything, but then with emotions its going to be inevitably a POV. and it makes sense to me that he expects certain thing to remain private. A lot of us here talk about our personal lives including critiques of those for example in estrangement situations - but don't actually tell everything of course.^

So not delusional to expect things he says to his family to remain private whilst he feels entitled to keep nothing private? Talk about “do as I say, not as I do”. He didn’t come across well and even Tom Bradby looked aghast at times.

He even said Lady Hussey was adored by him and Meghan and she wasn’t being racist. Well why didn’t he come out and defend her at the time then? Sorry, he was talking gibberish.

His whole life has been out there. He knows that his dad never loved his very young, vulnerable mum and actually had his mistress in the congregation at his first wedding. His dad told the world. He knows the rumours that James Hewitt is his dad and that his dad's family have been accused of murdering his mother. He knows his Uncle hung out with a convicted sex offender. He knows that the monarch must be protected at all costs which for Charles sibling wasn't so bad because there were three of them but that he's the only one in the immediate family who isn't as important and can be made a scapegoat.

WellsRose I am quite aware of the events in the 90s. I was in my 20s. Whatever Charles and Diana did or didn’t do, I maintain that it wasn’t on the scale of this. That’s all.

Maddy I agree with what you have written regarding the state of Harry’s mental health.
He’s given it (MH) much lip service, but doesn’t actually seem at all self aware.
It’s really worrying what the end game will be

I had intended to watch the interview live, but when I saw it didn’t finish until 10.35, I watched Happy Valley instead.
Then saw a bit of the BBC 10 o’ clock news which featured the interview first item.

I thought Nicholas Witchell sounded quite fair in his review of what had been broadcast so far, it was still going on live.

I shall watch it later to see what I think. The bits I have caught so far, he seems to be backtracking on certain claims that have been brought up in the past.

Allsorts

Ican, the amount of news items with either Harry or Megan speaking have been more than enough. It's like being made to watch bear bating , which I wouldn't watch for any money, despite not seeing it I know the tragedy and pain of it all.
It is sad and embarrassing watching this once loved young man almost have burn out in front of you, like watching a public execution, lots of people went to them too. He is extremely damaged and very vulnerable, he has people round him who are not interested in his mental health. In the end when this circus ends it is the family he has disrespected so publicly that will be there for him, thats what families do. If my husband was so fragile mentally, I would protect him, because he came first, not money, this whole business has been extremely badly managed to inflict hurt, like a bad film.
You and everyone that wishes areentitled to watch and read what you wish, your choice, just not mine.

Who would be blame for him being damaged and vulnerable? Is it nature of nuture.? You can't blame Meghan as she's only been around a few years, you can't cause that amount of damage to someone who is mentally stable. She may be the catalyst but she's not the cause.

No delusional at all. Felt things very strongly, yes, certainly not "right" about everything, but then with emotions its going to be inevitably a POV. and it makes sense to me that he expects certain thing to remain private. A lot of us here talk about our personal lives including critiques of those for example in estrangement situations - but don't actually tell everything of course.

So not delusional to expect things he says to his family to remain private whilst he feels entitled to keep nothing private? Talk about “do as I say, not as I do”. He didn’t come across well and even Tom Bradby looked aghast at times.

He even said Lady Hussey was adored by him and Meghan and she wasn’t being racist. Well why didn’t he come out and defend her at the time then? Sorry, he was talking gibberish.

FannyCornforth

I don’t recall Charles doing anything akin to what Harry is up to.
In fact, I don’t recall anyone going off on one so ballistically

There were interviews by both Charles and Diana in the 90s. Both admitted to having affairs and being miserable in their marriage. Harry would have been a young boy but old enough to know what was happening I'm surprised you don't recall it but I was in my 20s so you may be younge. I remember it being explosive but of course we didn't have social with all its anonymous keyboard warriors making it an even bigger story.

Ican, the amount of news items with either Harry or Megan speaking have been more than enough. It's like being made to watch bear bating , which I wouldn't watch for any money, despite not seeing it I know the tragedy and pain of it all.
It is sad and embarrassing watching this once loved young man almost have burn out in front of you, like watching a public execution, lots of people went to them too. He is extremely damaged and very vulnerable, he has people round him who are not interested in his mental health. In the end when this circus ends it is the family he has disrespected so publicly that will be there for him, thats what families do. If my husband was so fragile mentally, I would protect him, because he came first, not money, this whole business has been extremely badly managed to inflict hurt, like a bad film.
You and everyone that wishes areentitled to watch and read what you wish, your choice, just not mine.

maddyone

It’s all very well blaming the press/media, but if Harry didn’t put it out there the press would have nothing to complain or blame him for. Harry gives them all the ammunition they need.

His life is has been out there since the day he was born. he Nashua parents messy bitter divorce and his mum's death out in the media.

The nastiness towards from certain papers started before she got married. Some of it was racist.

And how about the other people who have suffered at the hands of the press. The Dowlers, Christopher Jeffries, Amanda Knox. Were they putting themselves there ? Most of the press in this country are evil.

I'm not a massive fan of Harry but I really admire him for taking on the press. The Royal family don't publicly speak out and maybe it's because they're scared of the precussions.

I don’t recall Charles doing anything akin to what Harry is up to.
In fact, I don’t recall anyone going off on one so ballistically

maddyone

Whether Charles is spoiled and entitled is beside the point, it’s Harry who’s doing the complaining and he comes across as very spoilt and very entitled.

Hi father did the same in 1994. Harry is not going to making so we can all ignore him.

Whether Charles is spoiled and entitled is beside the point, it’s Harry who’s doing the complaining and he comes across as very spoilt and very entitled.