well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

WellsRose

FannyCornforth

I don’t recall Charles doing anything akin to what Harry is up to.
In fact, I don’t recall anyone going off on one so ballistically

There were interviews by both Charles and Diana in the 90s. Both admitted to having affairs and being miserable in their marriage. Harry would have been a young boy but old enough to know what was happening I'm surprised you don't recall it but I was in my 20s so you may be younge. I remember it being explosive but of course we didn't have social with all its anonymous keyboard warriors making it an even bigger story.

Charles and Diana didn't write books or do interviews for money

I know

FannyCornforth

I know

That was to WellsRose
This thread is moving too fast.
I’m giving it a rest for a while!

Blondiescot

*"Most of the press in this country are evil."* Wow, that's quite the statement, but it's easy to resort to blaming the messenger.
You're clearly aiming your vitriol at certain national tabloids, when in fact, the vast majority of the press in this country consists of local and regional papers just going about their daily and weekly business.

Well of course I'm not having a pop at the local papers and yes I do have vitriol at the tabloids. Do you phone hacking a murdered girls phone so that her parents think she's alive is not evil? Do you not think what the media did to the bereaved families of Hillsborough evil? The messenger has shown itself to immoral and corrupt.

The UK press do have a reputation ,though, as being one of the worst in the world. Possibly they don’t get sued often enough and get away with things they wouldn’t either in the US or here.

I gave up part way through it was just, same old, same old.

How he can expect King Charles to communicate with him after he has seriously rubbished Camilla I don’t know.

I suspect he and M have had their moments of spotlight and they will gradually become old news.

Harry said he had been in therapy for 7 years. I think he should quit and ask for a refund.
I didn’t get on with my parents and left home at 21. I never had contact with my family again. I never felt the need to bad mouth them or carry a grudge. Stuff happens. Move on.

JaneJudge

Right, have been watching it… right

Lemsip. Do you think it would be ok if Harry did all of this for free? Are you annoyed at all the other people. How about Tom Bowers, Camilla Tominey and all the other Royal Correspondents, newspapers who discuss the Royal family, are they all wrong as well

If it's money were annoyed about. How did the Royal Family get so rich? Was that all above board?

What about other celebrities and famous people who write autobiographies, are they immoral? Most people will have some negative things to say about their lives including Prince Harry.

Has Charles ever actually said he never loved Diana though?

I know there was the ‘whatever love is’ comment at their engagement, which must have been devastating for her to hear, but am sure he did have feelings for her.

How many of us have thought we ‘loved’ someone, only to realise there are different definitions of love?

I imagine when Charles was at Diana’s bedside, just after William was born, he felt he really loved her then.

Whether he still felt the same pull after the birth of Harry a couple of years later, who knows?

And yes, his heart probably always belonged to Camilla, but that doesn’t mean that in his own way he didn’t love the mother of his two children, at least in the early years.

NanKate

I gave up part way through it was just, same old, same old.

How he can expect King Charles to communicate with him after he has seriously rubbished Camilla I don’t know.

I suspect he and M have had their moments of spotlight and they will gradually become old news.

I suppose in the same way that Harry communicated with him when he admitted he never loved his mother Eugene was a child.

Calendargirl

Has Charles ever actually said he never loved Diana though?

I know there was the ‘whatever love is’ comment at their engagement, which must have been devastating for her to hear, but am sure he did have feelings for her.

How many of us have thought we ‘loved’ someone, only to realise there are different definitions of love?

I imagine when Charles was at Diana’s bedside, just after William was born, he felt he really loved her then.

Whether he still felt the same pull after the birth of Harry a couple of years later, who knows?

And yes, his heart probably always belonged to Camilla, but that doesn’t mean that in his own way he didn’t love the mother of his two children, at least in the early years.

His mistress was in the congregation. If that isn't a lack of live, it's bloody disrespectful.

I don't understand his claim that the whole world is looking for accountability and answers.

People in my world are looking for a bit of hush from him. We are sorry for him, particularly because his therapy doesn't seem to be doing much for him, and wish him a happy and peaceful life. We are not looking for anything.

WellsRose

Blondiescot

"Most of the press in this country are evil." Wow, that's quite the statement, but it's easy to resort to blaming the messenger.
You're clearly aiming your vitriol at certain national tabloids, when in fact, the vast majority of the press in this country consists of local and regional papers just going about their daily and weekly business.

Well of course I'm not having a pop at the local papers and yes I do have vitriol at the tabloids. Do you phone hacking a murdered girls phone so that her parents think she's alive is not evil? Do you not think what the media did to the bereaved families of Hillsborough evil? The messenger has shown itself to immoral and corrupt.

I'm not defending or condoning those examples for one second, but you said the press - full stop. Wouldn't you be a tad annoyed if someone described your entire profession as 'evil' when in fact, many members of 'the press' are doing a good job. Be thankful you live in a country where we still have a free press who can hold those in power and authority to account.

The interviews apparently took place in Churchill Cottage which is part of San Ysidro Ranch Hotel, California.

We watched the ITV interview, not sure if a reconciliation is on the cards anytime soon.

PH seemed calm and rational, a lot of families have issues. It must be dreadful to feel that you have been maligned by the press whilst other family members are still on pedestals.

Allsorts

Don't watch him it would be like watching a public nervous breakdown, Megan quiet for a change, she's,got what she set out to do.
I watched Happy Valley, excellent episode, tempted to watch the lot. If only there were more police like Catherine.

Allsorts Is the whole 3rd series of Happy Valley on iPlayer ?

Maybe his therapist told him it would be cathartic to bare all in public. Come to think of it he has form for nakedness in public or was that his uncle

The interview was far too long and boring. It doesn't inspire me to read the book.
I see I have Diana her story on the bookshelf and I haven't read that yet.

Camilla was a guest at the wedding as was her husband, he was
part of the carriage procession.

Bloniescot, I said most of the press. So don't trust my words.

Sorry twist my words.

Funny you said that about the Diane book. We inherited a copy when my Dad died and I recently sent it to the op shop- unread. I’d be surprised if my Dad read it, either. I won’t be reading Harry’s drivel, sick of the sight of him.

Calendargirl

Has Charles ever actually said he never loved Diana though?

I know there was the ‘whatever love is’ comment at their engagement, which must have been devastating for her to hear, but am sure he did have feelings for her.

How many of us have thought we ‘loved’ someone, only to realise there are different definitions of love?

I imagine when Charles was at Diana’s bedside, just after William was born, he felt he really loved her then.

Whether he still felt the same pull after the birth of Harry a couple of years later, who knows?

And yes, his heart probably always belonged to Camilla, but that doesn’t mean that in his own way he didn’t love the mother of his two children, at least in the early years.

Charles obviously had to have had an attraction to Diana in order to produce kids with her, he may have cared for her in the beginning as she was a pretty girl, sweet and innocent- but it doesn't mean he loved her or was willing to sacrifice for her, or be faithful long term. He always had Camilla on the back burner, waiting until his job of fathering kids was done, it seems.

Wearing her cufflinks on their honeymoon is an atrocious thing to do. She was always on his mind. That's love. Diana was used, sadly.

Or he closed his eyes and thought of Camilla. It's all so sad realky.

If he continues to not let a single thing "go by", how can he possibly hope for any reconciliation?
Family life for him will just continually add more fuel to his fires.

WellsRose

Bloniescot, I said most of the press. So don't trust my words.

I don’t trust your words.

It’s one thing having an opinion on Harry but another to quote almost everyones words on here and then try and rubbish them and argue. Why do this?