OK call me a prude, but am I alone?

icanhandthemback Most Dr's no longer prescribe Viagra, you are expected to buy in over the counter. These adverts inform men where they can buy it safely. Your Dr will normally prescribe a stronger dose if you need more than the OTC strength.

Don't you think people with such issues can figure out how to find an over the counter location, without young children being exposed to viagra ads at 3 in the afternoon or other time children are usually awake?

I'd suggest if truly interested they'll find a way.

But then you’re biased.

I can guarantee that a ‘lesbian kiss’ is no more sexual or obscene than kiss between a man and a woman. If you think it is, you’ve got a problem.

Musicgirl, that sounds awful. I do understand where you are coming from about celebrities but they do give a lot of women who don't do a lot of reading an insight into symptoms they might be experiencing. I hope you feel better soon. My daughter suffers from chronic fatigue and it has such an impact on her life.

I’m sorry if I upset people who have had horrendous times with with the menopause. That was not my intention at all. I know I was lucky, although the continuous heavy bleeding that led up to my having an endometrial ablation that stopped my periods was no picnic. I have every sympathy for women who have awful experiences. My point was that I get fed up with hearing celebrities banging on about theirs. We all have different crosses to bear. At the moment, I have terrible, debilitating depression along with chronic fatigue symptoms so I am probably not making myself as clear as I should be.

Menopause can happen at any age. My daughter's friend was 15. My Aunt was in her 20's and my DIL is only mid 30's but it is looking like she is heading that way. It is an awful thing to go through for them and has an impact on their mental health with future health problems on the way with an increased chance of osteoporosis.
How anyone can be dismissive of women going through this is beyond me. I have not suffered much but can no longer have a healthy sex life with my husband because of the pain. I have used all the usual creams and am on HRT. Fortunately he is understanding but it could have been the start of a rocky road for my marriage.
Most Dr's no longer prescribe Viagra, you are expected to buy in over the counter. These adverts inform men where they can buy it safely. Your Dr will normally prescribe a stronger dose if you need more than the OTC strength.

paddyann54 Thank you That's exactly what my experience was too - and I also vividly remember being dismissed by various doctors when I had horrendously heavy and painful periods almost from the word go, being told "It'll be better once you have a baby". Not much help to a young teenager. More understanding at both ends of the menstruation/menopause experience would go a long way.

We took DGD to a professional performanc of 'Twelfths Nighf when she was about 12. The performance showed, quite subtly the Sea Captain's care and kindness of Sebastien as being homosexually motivated

DGD noticed this and asked about it. I explained truthfully, she accepted it and I let her parents know. they were quite happy about what she saw and how I had dealt with it.

My rule has always been to answer questions when asked. I have been so successful that when DD was 16 she came home and described me as a useless parent. It seemed she and her college friends, sitting round the table in the college cafe were discussing all the hilarious things their parents did to avoid talking about sex or answering questions on the subject. She complained that she could contribute nothing to the conversation because if she wanted to know anything on sexual matters she just asked me and got an answer and she couldn't remember when she hadn't known the basic facts of sexual reproduction.

I wouldn't wish my menopause experience on anyone ,it was so bad I almost lost my marriage and contemplated taking my life.Consequently I'm on HRT for life ,with yearly checkups with a gynaecologist .
The HRT has made a massive difference but even with it I still have irregular bleeds and often night sweats at 69.I can live with those .I cant stand the smug women who tell me they sailed through it as if it was my choice to have the issues I did .
All experiences are valid so the "whingers" need heard ,just as my 11 year old GD who has very heavy periods needs heard and help at the other end of the joy of periods

There are so many factors at play. I recall a friend deep in grief in menopause because to marked the end of her childbearing life, whereas I thought, brilliant, no need to worry about birth control any more etc. It can impact on marriages also, in ways we wouldn't choose to discuss here TMI wise.

Also because something hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt impact people in different ways. That's quite bizarre thinking. I have had two pregnancies with no particular issues, that doesnt mean I dont believe women cant experience terrible problems in pregnancy.

Blondiescot

Well, Musicgirl and montymops, good for you - but please don't think that the menopause is a breeze for all women. Personally speaking, it brought me to a point where I was virtually suicidal, but I had no clue that my symptoms were menopause-related, so the more publicity and the more it is spoken about, the better as far as I am concerned. Being so dismissive of what some women go through is exactly why many women don't seek help.

I understand.

I also don't think menopause ads would be as hard to explain to GC watching tv with Gran as would be viagra ads. Sure making love is wonderful and normal, but I think men who have issues are not likely saying "I saw an ad on telly for viagra, please prescribe those tablets to me". I could be wrong, but tv ads are not my best guess at how men deal with whatever issues they have.

I agree Blondiescot. I was one of the lucky ones too, but being dismissive of what can cause suicidality, here on "understanding" gransnet goes beyond the pale.

Well, Musicgirl and montymops, good for you - but please don't think that the menopause is a breeze for all women. Personally speaking, it brought me to a point where I was virtually suicidal, but I had no clue that my symptoms were menopause-related, so the more publicity and the more it is spoken about, the better as far as I am concerned. Being so dismissive of what some women go through is exactly why many women don't seek help.

@Treetops, your post made me chuckle. It reminds me of the time l was at my parents' house a few years ago when my grandmother, who really was a prude, was staying with them. My father was fanatical about wildlife programmes and this particular evening was watching a programme about monkeys. My mother and I realised what was going to happen in the next few minutes (and monkeys are distressingly human-like in this respect). Mum suggested to Grandma and me that as it was a nice evening we could sit outside in a garden. I quickly acquiesced but Grandma decided she would stay put. We didn't have to wait long. About five minutes later a very red faced Grandma came running out faster than we had seen her move for years. She was so shocked she could hardly speak. Dad was oblivious throughout, only interested in the programme.

@Montypops, l am of the next generation down (I'm in my late fifties) and agree with you. I also do not want to see the adverts for sanitary products, incontinence pants and Viagra. This is not because l am a prude but because I think they are unnecessary and do not need to be rammed down our throats. As for the meal that seems to be made of the menopause by some people in the media, well I and most of my friends seem to have come through unscathed I was very lucky, hardly a hot flush, some of my friends went down the HRT route, but for most of us it was part of our lives and a relief to be rid of periods rather than the epic "journey" that some celebrities seem to make it to be.

I’m afraid I agree with you Mawthe merrier- I don’t like the horrible ads with ‘blood’ on the sanitary towels - nor do I like the ‘pee pants’ ad- why oh why? - just the companies trying to sell their wares. I am nearly 80 and don’t yet need pee pants😂😂 - for goodness sake - and don’t get me started on the ‘menopause journey’ - aaaaargh - please get a grip - women of the younger generation. We’ve all been there and got the T shirt. I worked all my life - mostly in a male dominated environment - HRT- no probs and I’m afraid, no patience with the whingers.

You can actually pay to not see ads on itv, or just watch BBC.

@ OP; I was left wondering why a ‘lesbian’ kiss was any different to a straight couple kiss. Outdated comment.

Love is love.

Enidd

I found your comment about the women kissing to be disappointingly homophobic and rather outdated.

Any questions I’d happily answer.

The O/P?

My Mum worried greatly about my viewing, but I could watch the 'World About Us' without supervision. She walked in on Sunday afternoon, just in time to hear - 'The tribe don't wear clothes but use reeds, which name translates as'Arse Grass'. I never saw her move as quickly to the end of the day's, as she did turning the TV off.

Whose remark?
Which remark?

I found your comment about the women kissing to be disappointingly homophobic and rather outdated.

Any questions I’d happily answer.

Controlling adverts on TV? Is this not a bit old hat? Surely kids are all on the internet now.

No I don't think that YABU.