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OK call me a prude, but am I alone?

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MawtheMerrier Sun 26-Feb-23 15:09:04

Should TV advertising be "age appropriate" when children are likely to be watching.
Today 3 o clock, Scotland and France were just about to kick off in todays Six Nations Rugby match.
The two ads immediately before kick.off were
1) for electric cars about "urges" including a lesbian kiss
And 2) an ad for Viagra starting with couples in bed and a comment about it "being amazing (or not)"
Doesn't bother me but if I had been watching with my GC (12,11,8) and they will be watching with their parents, I would not have liked to field questions about what they had just seen.i suspect the older boy might have been embarrassed to see/hear that "with Granny" - because all old people are by definition easily scandalised.
Just asking really- AIBU?

Anniel Mon 27-Feb-23 19:38:19

Ofcourse I know women play rugby. I may be old but I am up to date. The point is that this was a MENS game and I thought the purpose of advertising was to capture the audience. However, if it was provotively challenging men to accept Lesbianism then fine. I worked with many gay men and women in inner London so have no opposition to same sexual attraction. Nor am I against anyone trying to improve their sexual performance but TV channels are so anxious to show how diverse society is that they have a zeal to make sure we are all represented on screen. Maybe more aged actors could be seen more. Maureen Lipman delights me in Corrie and Judy Dench also appears but except for Ken in Corrie I don’t see many ancients like me. There is. O need for everyone to demonstrate their political correctness. Maw’s post was not alluding to that. Oh well!

OldRose Mon 27-Feb-23 19:15:22

Adverts are not information. They're designed to persuade/shame/embarrass /urge people to buy things. They promote gambling by telling people not to gamble, try to shame people into buying kitchens etc they can't afford by making them ashamed of their less than show homes. Definitely not "information ".

hugshelp Mon 27-Feb-23 18:44:21

What aspects of the permissive society are you focusing on?
Tolerance towards people's sexual orientation is different to tolerance of rampaging mobs. Tolerance of different views is different to tolerance of open threats of violence.
I don't think we need to go back to a time of intolerance, but I think a bit of differentiation and critical thinking about many issues would go a long way.
We have a government that wants to illegalise the rights of peaceful protest and strike action while doing nothing about mounting corruption, social inequality, and open violence. It's not a straightforward case of tighter rules or looser ones, but rather of ones that are effective in having a decent society.

Grandma70s Mon 27-Feb-23 18:35:48

I really can’t see anything objectionable or unsuitable for the young in same-sex kisses. What do people object to?

Hithere Mon 27-Feb-23 18:23:42

The theory of catholicism is that everybody is accepted as they are and not judged

Jesus loves everybody, right? Nope!

The practice is much different, isn't it?

If anybody doesn't fit the narrow description of what is acceptable according to a book called the bible, it is a sin and a shame

We are all individuals who make different choices, and showing love to your partner is not permissive, it is natural and human

Periods - what is wrong with blood? It is shown plenty in movies and other media, so when it comes to periods, it s taboo? Offensive? Gross? A "no need to know"?

Religions restrict the rights of human beings based on "the word of god"

Women would be much better off if the nature of her biology was accepted and supported.

It a starts with showing a real representation of what a period means

Toilet paper ads have not shown ever any fecal matter - if there is/was one, I am happy to receive a link

Galaxy Mon 27-Feb-23 18:10:53

Was society better when the signs said no blacks etc, when single mothers were placed in hospital sometimes for life because of a perceived mental illness, when it was illegal for people to love each other, which period of time were you thinking about?

grumppa Mon 27-Feb-23 18:02:34

As someone who..

grumppa Mon 27-Feb-23 18:02:11

As someone I used to play rugby, I resent the implication that we need help with our sex lives!

Chestnut Mon 27-Feb-23 17:35:50

Hithere

Happycatholicwife1 clearly illustrates what is wrong with religion

She makes some very good points, because we see the breakdown of society all around us and I don't think acceptance of same-sex kisses or blood-soaked pads on TV is going to improve things. Society is in a mess and this has all happened since the 'permissive society' came to life. Maybe you can tell us how to improve things?

Hithere Mon 27-Feb-23 17:20:55

Happycatholicwife1 clearly illustrates what is wrong with religion

HiPpyChick57 Mon 27-Feb-23 16:58:33

Granmarderby10

mmm…not too sure that there is a need to show that menstrual blood is red and not blue but imagine if toilet paper was advertised this way because it is also a totally natural bodily function* !! Know what I mean.😐

Well they are showing how absorbent sanitary products are, they don’t have to do that with toilet paper

suelld Mon 27-Feb-23 16:54:01

#Happycatholicwife1 = “ We're having a terrible problem here in the US with school boards and teachers going behind parents backs and actually encouraging children to get abortions, change their gender (as if that were really possible), etc. Parents are starting to become a lot more aware of what's going on in schools, thanks to at home education due to covid, and a lot of them are very unhappy. There is a certain element in this country, anxious to promote communist theory, who work very hard at breaking down nuclear families, common moral and cultural standards, and traditional values and ideas”

I think your ‘nom de plume’ says it all- I’ve been following all this horror going on in the US pretty closely - banned books, anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-drag to the point where people are shot or similar, Ron DeSantis’s war on school education and black history, his changing history because he doesn’t like it! I doubt teachers are encouraging abortions, but if a school age child was raped or similar, then perhaps their teachers should get involved to help, and yes after a long discussion with all concerned then yes abortion -may- be advisable!
I won’t continue as we’d be arguing forever, and I have nothing against a happy ‘normal’ family , but that can can come in many forms ! Please note I am a heterosexual woman of 76 with 2 sons and 2 grandchildren!

HiPpyChick57 Mon 27-Feb-23 16:50:37

Hithere

I applaud showing red liquid vs blue for period ads

It is about time a very normal biological fact is normalized and accepted as non shameful

Exactly this.

Stephania1954 Mon 27-Feb-23 16:50:24

I think it is great that they have adverts for sanitary towels and showing a red blood like liquid. I was one of those girls who knew nothing and started her periods aged 11 at junior school on a camping trip. I was petrified.
There might still be young girls out there now who are not helped for whatever reason to understand what happens to their bodies and if these advert help then that is worth it.
Also boys need to know what girls go through. Lets not pretend that periods don’t happen and that it is shameful.
As for the adverts for incontinence pads why not. I use them when I have a cough. It is better to normalise these things.
As for kissing in adverts do they really think it will make me buy an electric car, no but it might make me remember and avoid that make of car.

Vintagenonna Mon 27-Feb-23 16:48:57

happycatholicwife1 *(don't know if there is a number 2) posts :

"We're having a terrible problem here in the US with school boards and teachers going behind parents backs and actually encouraging children to get abortions, change their gender (as if that were really possible), etc. Parents are starting to become a lot more aware of what's going on in schools, thanks to at home education due to covid, and a lot of them are very unhappy. There is a certain element in this country, anxious to promote communist theory, who work very hard at breaking down nuclear families, common moral and cultural standards, and traditional values and ideas."

It would seem that the evangelical alt-right in the US is funding inappropriate, inaccurate and frankly offensive 'support' to women seeking advice on pregnancy termination here.

Please, hcw1 (is there a number 2 by the way?), don't trot out the same right-wing hysteria here.

suelld Mon 27-Feb-23 16:38:35

JaneJudge

bizarrely someone gave me some viagra towels and they are still going strong years later

What is a Viagra Towel? Advertising or something I’m ignorant of?

lovebeigecardigans1955 Mon 27-Feb-23 16:30:57

I would have been embarrassed when I was a teenager Maw as our family (fairly Victorian in attitude) pretended that sex didn't exist and it was never talked about.

As I get older I'm less worried about these ads appearing on TV. I'm not sure why, but then there is so much more openness now.

icanhandthemback Mon 27-Feb-23 16:29:58

semperfidelis

The plethora of advertisements for incontinence pads for women suggest we're all leaking. We aren't. And where are the incontinence advertisements for men?

You speak for yourself, semperfidelis! It is a more common problem than women realise but they find it more difficult to talk about it. Many don't realise that it can be related to their oestrogen levels so it becomes a problem after menopause.

happycatholicwife1 Mon 27-Feb-23 16:29:30

No, you're not alone and no YANBU. It's a question of taste and appropriateness. I think the reference about the toilet paper and the menstrual pads is spot on. I don't need to see menstrual blood and I wouldn't want to see fecal material to emphasize the strength of a loo roll. IMO, there are a lot of complaints about how children have lost their childhood, have become too accustomed to graphic sexual images making them lose a lot of their innocence. Those comments are correct. But this sort of thing is part of it. I think there should be health education in school, but I think the detailed teaching and, at least in the US, the ramming down parents' and children's throats of alternative lifestyles, is the reason why so many children are confused and have such a casual attitude about sex, which is really a very, very serious topic. And somehow, all this teaching and poking in the eye with these things hasn't seemed to improve behavior or outcomes. You'd think with all the instruction there would never again be an unwanted pregnancy, but that is absolutely not the case. It's a question of maturity and guidance from parents, and, frankly, what societies are willing to accept. It used to be that society understood and generally agreed that an unwed mother, without a husband to help raise and support the child was not a good thing, for the people involved and the community in general. And I would say that society has very low standards and expectations for sexual behavior now. And this is all not done innocently, or, for that matter, to educate children. It's part of a plan to marinate them in anything that used to be considered shocking or demoralizing, making it easier to disseminate previously unacceptable ideas among society. As far as what's the difference in a kiss between a man and a woman, if you don't know, I can't explain it. We're having a terrible problem here in the US with school boards and teachers going behind parents backs and actually encouraging children to get abortions, change their gender (as if that were really possible), etc. Parents are starting to become a lot more aware of what's going on in schools, thanks to at home education due to covid, and a lot of them are very unhappy. There is a certain element in this country, anxious to promote communist theory, who work very hard at breaking down nuclear families, common moral and cultural standards, and traditional values and ideas. It's not an accident that society is less happy, more chaotic and less secure than ever before. As you all say, slowly slowly catchy monkey.

Missiseff Mon 27-Feb-23 16:26:49

My Grandson's 3 & wouldn't bat an eyelid at two women kissing, he has two Mums.

Blondiescot Mon 27-Feb-23 16:22:48

Anniel

I agree with you Maw. What have Lesbians engaged in kissing have to do with Rugby football? Of what use would that ad be before a football match between brawny men?
Those viewers watching football would not be likely to be interested in an ad for Viagra at that particular time.

After all, the purpose of ads is to attract buyers of all kinds at times of day when they are watching TV. So on commercial grounds alone and with no opposition to gay relationships or men whose sexual urges are waning, I do think such ads have little appeal to viewers watching Rugby.

You do realise that women do actually watch football and rugby and also play both sports too?

semperfidelis Mon 27-Feb-23 16:17:04

The plethora of advertisements for incontinence pads for women suggest we're all leaking. We aren't. And where are the incontinence advertisements for men?

Nancat Mon 27-Feb-23 16:13:35

I'm a Prude and proud of it. Personal needs should be the province of parents or doctors to explain, not a public "service".
As for the content of some TV programs, I am a dedicated follower of Barbara Cartland, a chaste kiss on the cheek is ok, but anything else - they held hands and went through the door.
We do not need to be given the details, `

icanhandthemback Mon 27-Feb-23 15:53:09

Impotence is a huge issue for a lot of men so if it is something openly known about, things might be easier for them to discuss it. Children will ask about it when they are old enough to want to know what the advert is about, until then it will go over their heads like as not.

Primary school age children have periods - why should they not be able to see ads for sanitary protection?

And little boys get erections from a very young age.

As for "lesbian kisses', that is also all part and parcel of life. The more young children see it, the more they will accept it.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Mon 27-Feb-23 15:45:49

Anniel

I agree with you Maw. What have Lesbians engaged in kissing have to do with Rugby football? Of what use would that ad be before a football match between brawny men?
Those viewers watching football would not be likely to be interested in an ad for Viagra at that particular time.

After all, the purpose of ads is to attract buyers of all kinds at times of day when they are watching TV. So on commercial grounds alone and with no opposition to gay relationships or men whose sexual urges are waning, I do think such ads have little appeal to viewers watching Rugby.

A lot of women play rugby (both codes) and a high proportion of them are lesbians.