Phillip schofield

Doodledog

Smileless2012:
And we don't know that that isn't all it was Doodledog.

But we do! Sex between a powerful older man and an early career boy is not the same as two consenting adults forming a relationship, regardless of whether either is married and what their sexuality is.

That it happened is not in doubt. That one person was young, keen to get a start in TV and powerless, and the other was much older, in a position to grant him his dreams and powerful is also undisputed.

I don't care about their gayness, and I am well aware that affairs at work are commonplace, and I don't see them as sacking matters.

There is no law against a sexual relationship between a 20 year old and a 60 year old though Doodledog, whether there is a power balance between them or not. That is the material point, and unless this young man, or another comes forward to say that they were underage, nothing is going to come of this.

Smileless2012:
And we don't know that that isn't all it was Doodledog.

But we do! Sex between a powerful older man and an early career boy is not the same as two consenting adults forming a relationship, regardless of whether either is married and what their sexuality is.

That it happened is not in doubt. That one person was young, keen to get a start in TV and powerless, and the other was much older, in a position to grant him his dreams and powerful is also undisputed.

I don't care about their gayness, and I am well aware that affairs at work are commonplace, and I don't see them as sacking matters.

I bet his wife felt suicidal when he came out as gay and left her. I bet this young man felt suicidal after declaring his love for Schofield then being dumped. I've not watched the BBC interview but seems like he's looking for sympathy well he won't get any off me. Not many people in the TV world seem to like him.

Sexual relationships between colleagues are very much against the rules in some jobs even today and will lead to dismissal. And such a relationship between a much older, very famous and influential person and a very young colleague at the start of their career is plainly wrong and potentially exploitative, whatever their gender or marital status.

Because it’s about sex

vegansrock

What gets me is why this is headline news?

Me too.

Shelflife agree

Anniebach.

I’d like to clarify your post as 13:57 which you attributed to me.

My only contribution was the final sentence, I stand by it.

What gets me is why this is headline news?

Anniebach of course people lie if they are having an affair!! Hardly going to make it headline news are they?
Whether I like PS or not, I hope justice prevails. If I lied to my best friend , my family and my employers about an affair I was having I would not expect to be sacked from my job ! My private life would be none of their business!!!
I fear PS is being hounded as a direct result of his brothers crimes. That is unfair , unnecessary and unjust!!
On the other hand if he has groomed a young boy he must be punished for that. Let's wait and see before we grind PS into the ground

The PR campaign and spin is obviously working judging by the tone of some of these comments.

It’s been well documented that this young man was in a bad way when he was moved from TM off to Loose Women. Another young runner that worked on LW was given the push to make way for him. His crime? He got drunk and openly declared his love for Phillip at the awards. PS couldn’t arrange the movement of staff between programmes; it was arranged by execs behind the scenes.

I don’t like to see anyone hounded but where’s the consideration for this young man’s well being? There’s a nasty smell around all this and it’s not just about an affair. I’d like to see those execs explain themselves. Why is a young man expendable? Why is another young man just pushed out of his job in order to cover up Phillip’s mess? These are human being and just as important as Phillip Schofield. Stop being fooled by the spin - you’re being played.

GrannyGravy13

I really dislike trial by media

All this speculation must be dreadful for all concerned.

If PS has acted illegally in anyway shape or form he should have his day in court.

I totally agree with you GrannyGravy and think the media have kept this going far beyond it’s sell by date, as they do with anything or anyone they get their teeth into. If there’s a crime, charge him, otherwise the media should drop it. As I said several days ago, we were amazed when we returned from our short cruise to find it was still all over the media. It’s time it was dropped, it’s really not interesting.

We used “shag” instead of “bonk” but it amounts to the same thing.

In the civil service it is against the rules - well, used to be not sure about now.

And we don't know that that isn't all it was Doodledog.

Yes he has brought about his own downfall GSM but that doesn't excuse the accusations of grooming and dropping this young man because he was no longer young enough.

Okay, one for the road!
That’s certainly a moot point, Shep - what came first?
‘Payroll’ or ‘Bonk’?

Quote tickingbird Sun 28-May-23 07:37:52
hollysteers

Why is this unimportant, trivial story taking over the media?
A tawdry chat show and host given such prominence everywhere I look. I’m bemused and put off by so many people rubbing their hands with glee. It’s not an edifying sight.

Unless it comes to light that there has been some criminal activity, everyone should shut up.
TV hosts are two a penny.

Have we learned nothing from the Jimmy Saville scandal?

Germanshepherdsmum

I have zero sympathy for PS. He has, as WWM says, brought about his own downfall. There was a crude but very true saying years ago - ‘you don’t bonk the payroll’.

Yes.

The only comparison with Saville I’ve seen is the suggestion that tv companies cover up, fail to properly investigate when concerns are raised.

He’s exploited a young man he met when the boy was 15. He lied to everyone. Now he’s touring tv studios talking about being suicidal. He’d be well advised to stop talking and take himself into a mh facility to reassure his daughters and the young man that he’s at least taking responsibility for himself

I have zero sympathy for PS. He has, as WWM says, brought about his own downfall. There was a crude but very true saying years ago - ‘you don’t bonk the payroll’.

tidyskatemum

Can someone explain why the BBC thinks this is so important that an interview with PS was the main item on the lunchtime news today? We switched off.

Because folk at the Beeb know that there is more to it.
Not that I agree that it should be so prominent - but it’s indicative that this is just scratching the surface.

I’m not going to comment now for a while, as I feel that I’m just repeating myself

Anniebach

Nothing illegal yet he has been compared with Saville on this thread

What has been compared to Savile is the cover up, the determination by fans that this couldn't have happened, and the collusion of the people at the top of the BBC (Savile) and ITV (Schofield) to protect their brand.

Anniebach

Nothing illegal yet he has been compared with Saville on this thread

I don’t know who said that.
I definitely would not have, and neither would Doodledog who along with me is probably the most critical of Schofield on this thread

Can someone explain why the BBC thinks this is so important that an interview with PS was the main item on the lunchtime news today? We switched off.

I am no fan of PS but the pile on by the media etc makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.

And again - I don't judge him for having an 'affair', although I think that word dignifies what happened. I don't care that it was a gay 'relationship' either. That is Schofield's own business and if that were all it was should be allowed to stay private.