Phillip schofield

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Callistemon21

There are plenty of facts on here, NanaDana

Other than PS had a sexual relationship with a younger, adult male work colleague, admitted adultery and lying about it to his wife, his friends, and his work colleagues, and then resigned from ITV. Do please tell me what additional "facts" I may have missed..

There are plenty of facts on here, NanaDana

NittWitt

Wow.
37 pages (which I haven't read) on Philip Schofield.
Is this really such a fascinating topic?

Perhaps not so much "interesting", NW, as particularly fertile ground for speculation, hearsay, rumour, gossip, conjecture, innuendo, supposition, insinuation, suspicion, surmise, and good old-fashioned scuttlebutt. Nevertheless, despite the 37 pages of comment, you'll have to dig deep for the odd nugget of fact.

I spotted the "wasp in your wig" comment, though.
Great expression! I love it 😍

Wow.
37 pages (which I haven't read) on Philip Schofield.
Is this really such a fascinating topic?

Iam64

No one here is looking to sell newspapers. As for prurient speculation, as someone with 40 years experience of safeguarding - I’m not speculating in a prurient manner.

My comment about prurient speculation was aimed at some of the mass media, not at any individual here.. that's why I specifically referred to newspapers... But thank you for acknowledging that you are at least speculating.. if not in a prurient manner. That's quite refreshing. However, I'm not holding my breath for similar admissions from elsewhere on this thread.

Well said Iam.

No one here is looking to sell newspapers. As for prurient speculation, as someone with 40 years experience of safeguarding - I’m not speculating in a prurient manner.

Having read the recent exchanges here relating to what PS may (or may not) have done, one comment which I am particularly persuaded to agree is "probaby true" is the claim that "there are many people who do actually know stuff". Unfortunately, none of them feature on this thread, despite the assertions to the contrary. Perhaps we'll only ever know if the two people in the relationship choose to reveal all, and that seems most unlikely under the present circumstances. But let's not let the truth get in the way of some prurient speculation, eh? That's what sells newspapers...

Oh Oreo! Thank you - yes, a bee in one’s bonnet.
Whatever was I thinking of! 🤦‍♀️

Dare away. In every post I have reiterated that this is just a difference of opinion - I couldn't care less what you think, but you seem determined to put down any view that differs from yours.

There is no need. It's just a discussion of something happening far away. It will work itself out in the end, whatever you or I have to say about it

It was Doodledog’s comment ( above yours) about trying to close the thread down, apologies, I find both your comments so similar.
No wig needed by me thanks, or wasps in it.The phrase you’re looking for is bee in the bonnet, but I don’t have those either, just daring to have a different opinion to yours is all.

As for trying to close a thread down cos I have a different view to you, that’s just a paranoid comment.

I didn't say that you wanted to close down a thread - I said close down this particular discussion, which is different. And using your own 'only post what I think you know' criteria, you are not in a position to diagnose me as paranoid, are you .

As I say, though, you have your views and we have ours. That's what Gransnet is for.

I didn’t say anything at all about anyone wanting to ‘close down
the thread’.
I’ve never said anything of the sort.
I know that you ‘don’t think we know anything more than anyone else’; you’ve said it often enough.
I don’t usually reply to you; I don’t really know why I’ve bothered this time either 🤷‍♀️
You seem to have a something of a wasp in your wig about me and Doodledog

I don’t think you or Doodledog know any more than anyone else FannyCornforth in spite of your nudge nudge wink wink comments.
Egg on faces? If anything criminal comes out about PS then I and lots of other people prefer to not comment now in other words not rush to judgement based on SM gossip. If anything further ‘comes to light’ then it does, but it doesn’t reflect well on comments about it made right now.
Eggs don’t even come into it.🥚🥚You fail to see that.
As for trying to close a thread down cos I have a different view to you, that’s just a paranoid comment.
Enjoy keeping on, soon reach the 1000 😉

Sorry- some atrocious syntax due to shoddy editing!

There are many people who do actually know stuff.
As Doodledog says, there is no way of knowing of anyone on here knowing who we know or what we know.
And in a few weeks time it won’t be Doodledog or I who will have egg on their face 🍳
I’ve already almost literally put my money on the table about this

You have no idea what people know and don't know - you are just throwing your weight about for some reason. Your opinion is no more or less valid than mine, is it? You think I am speculating maliciously - I think you are trying to close down a discussion. C'est la vie, innit?

And however awful CF's mother must feel, or what she says about this situation, that doesn't mean that PS bringing her into it was right. IMO. Yours, of course, may differ.

Caroline Flack’s Mother has said he should be left alone btw.

You don’t actually know anything about the situation Doodledog just speculation is all.
Exploitative relationships? Works both ways y’know, and so far no indication that the young guy in question was unhappy with anything at all.
His ‘poor me’ interview was cos that was how he was feeling,
Emotional and upset, anyone would be that.
Leave the brother out of it, it’s unfair to target PS over that.
Frizzel gave sensible answers the day before so maybe he was just irritated by yet more questions yelled at him by a journalist, yet again you know nothing about him yet are prepared to diss him outright.Jeez!

And I find yours cravenly dismissive of an exploitative relationship with a junior member of staff whose getting and losing of a coveted role on TM depended entirely of PS's patronage.

I don't 'have it in for' PS, but I support a thorough independent investigation of all allegations against him, and am not fooled by his 'poor me' interview and his disgraceful invoking of Caroline Flack's tragic death.

I don't know the law about failing to report a crime, but he admitted knowing that he was aware of his brother's behaviour and rather than report it told him not to do it again. That is reprehensible, whether or not it is illegal, and that, coupled with his behaviour towards the young runner should have been enough to lose him his job.

Frizell's dismissive attitude suggests that far from being a decent boss, he would be the type to shrug off complaints, or move the complainants out of the way.

Doodledog

eazybee

He was door-stepped by a woman shouting out questions as he got into his car. Not a serious interview.

The (alleged) corruption and bullying at ITV is a serious matter though. As was said in the enquiry, it doesn't give the impression that a 'staffer' going to him with concerns would be taken seriously, does it?

In all of this, are people forgetting that 'poor' Phillip Schofield is on record as having known about his brother abusing a young man to the extent that he got 12 years in jail, yet did nothing about it? That is not gossip - he admitted it in court.

There is no doubt that people at ITV (including Frizell) knew about it, yet they kept him on. Had the boy not had the courage to come forward three months later, it could still be going on. As it was, he suffered for at least three months longer than he needed to.

When the story of his brother broke, my first thought was that nobody should be blamed for the actions of someone else; but finding out that this wasn't the lie that PS told (that it was consensual masturbation and a one-off), but prolonged abuse serious enough to get 12 years was enough in itself to tip the balance on that one. Then there's the fact that the world and their dog knew about the runner and the fake 'coming out' pantomime. Again, at face value, it seemed like 'just a workplace affair' that happens all the time, and is nobody's business, but then the links to the stage school and so on came out and it took on a different light.

I cannot for the life of me understand why people are so keen to defend him after all of that, or at least wonder why he didn't lose his job before he did.

You really seem to have it in for Philip Schofield Doodledog
What did he ever do to you?
PS did not say in court that he knew serious abuse had gone on with his brother, rather that the lie that his brother had told him was the truth which is a different thing altogether.
There is no police action as far as I know linking PS to anything of a criminal nature at all.
He lost his job because he lied to his bosses about being gay and having had a fling/ affair with a former member of their staff and also a falling out/ power struggle with HW.
I neither know or particularly like PS but find the comments about him on here a load of gleeful malicious gossip.

I didn’t realise he made this comment to a woman, but since he apparently did, I agree Callistemon that this was misogynistic.

I'm inclined to agree, Callistemon, but people are defending far worse things on this thread, so I thought I'd suggest a less damning possibility.