Phillip schofield

Programmes like TM are used to nudge people into behaviour considered desirable

An aside maybe, but maybe not, personally I dont find it helps politics, that type of thing.
Getting sometimes. shaky and shady media "personalities" to push something on behalf of the government, doesnt do them or the programmes or "politics" any favours. In my opinion.
The more they join up, the less I trust any of them.

So ITV top brass continually denying they knew anything is blown out of the water. I still don’t understand why go to so much trouble to protect Phillip Schofield.

Carole Malone has just said it on Jeremy Vine. He declared his love for PS 'under the influence' in front of all the 'top brass' at ITV (in 2020). Everyone knew then, if not before.

What is interesting is that parts of that interview with Eamonn have obviously been edited. GBNEWS lawyers have obviously scrutinised the footage and removed bits they are concerned about. When DW asked him about what he saw and heard of the incident at the tv awards, his reply had obviously been cut and he just talked about Phillip’s coming out a few days later, which, apparently, was because of what happened at the tv awards. From what I gather the young boyfriend had had too much to drink and declared his love for Phillip in front of everyone - PS was there with his wife!
Shortly afterMM was ‘promoted’ to Loose Women and PS had his coming out. There must be a reason nobody is openly talking about what occurred that night as even Dan Wootton has said he was a witness to it but still doesn’t go into detail. It’s all very strange and if ITV have paid him off and covered up for PS the question is why? He’s not a massive A list movie star making squillions of bucks for a big studio and its backers. He’s a daytime tv presenter on a programme that doesn’t bring in that many viewers. I truly believe there’s a bigger story behind all this and it goes beyond Phillip Schofield.

Iam64

It isn’t just lying about an ‘affair’. He wouldn’t be leaving itv and losing his career over an ‘affair’
Where’s the evidence he tried to protect the young man? He got moved when Schofield ended the relationship

This has been said over and over on this thread, Iam. People either don't bother to read what has been said, or just ignore it.

I'll repeat it yet another time. This is not about an affair. In fact, calling it 'an affair' is minimising it. It was exploitation of a very young man at the bottom of the hierarchy by a much older one at the very top of it.

It is not about homophobia. This would be equally bad if the victim had been a girl.

It is not even about celebrity, or at least not about celebrity gossip. It is about safeguarding, about power dynamics, about cover-ups and abuse of power.

Programmes like TM are used to nudge people into behaviour considered desirable (eg with Covid messaging, or anti-obesity items). The presenters had vastly profitable deals with companies such as We Buy Any Car, Garnier and M&S - all of which advertise on ITV and pay huge amounts (over and above the fees to the presenters) to do so.

To some extent they are establishment figures - eg PS's role as ambassador of the Prince's Trust. All of this is based on their wholesome and trustworthy image, which it has been shown was false.

More generally (but crucially), politics is now intertwined with celebrity. Boris Johnson was elected because he was a 'personality' who was considered relatable because he appeared on things like HIGNFY and made 'amusing' comments on more serious programmes.

The two things (the TM scandal and politics) are linked, for that reason. People need to trust the sources of government messaging or barmy ideas such as 5G being responsible for Covid, or vaccine denial take hold, or people see politicians as 'all the same' and don't vote. Breaking that trust is a threat to democracy.

As well as all that is the fate of a young man who was led to believe would have a career in TV, who was taken by taxi to PS's ITV flat every Thursday night (PS didn't work on Fridays), and who declared his love for the man he thought loved him at an awards show where he was under the influence of some sort of mind-altering substance. Possibly alcohol. Immediately afterwards there was an orchestrated 'coming out' by PS, who coincidentally chose that time to decide that his sexuality was other people's business, and who went for the sympathy vote for his supposed 'bravery'. Meanwhile, the young man was summarily booted from TM (and maybe from the other shows where he was PS's assistant - the Cube, Dancing on Ice and others) and possibly persuaded to sign an Non Disclosure Agreement. The cover-up went on, to protect the perpetrator(s) and

All of the above has been said on TV by people like Eamonn Holmes, who may well have an axe to grind, but who will have had libel lawyers scrutinising all of it. There is worse online if anyone wants to look for it before that, too, becomes front page news.

He was not thrown under a bus. This is not about an 'affair'. It is not about homophobia. It is not about celebrity gossip. It goes much deeper than that, which is why the palace, ITV, parliament and other agencies have got involved.

People can disagree with me by all means, but please say why you disagree, and not just repeat the dismissive comments that minimise the importance of what has happened and not comment on why you think it doesn't matter?

I watched the 2nd part of the Eamonn Holmes interview last night. I thought the most interesting part was regarding the Queen’s coffin saga. At the time PS and HW pushed in, jumped the queue to stand by the coffin when people had queued often for 12 hours.

They said it was because they were there for work purposes and making a film so they had special permission. As Eamonn asked “if there ever was a film, where is it because nobody has ever seen it.”

The bit where PS threw himself to his knees in EH dressing room announcing he was gay was hilarious! Eamonn did the boo hoo hoos off to a T and said “is that all?”

It was also very revealing that Eamonn and Ruth were only told as they drove into work that P and H would be appearing on the show and were making an announcement. It was all orchestrated and choreographed right down to who sat where. He says they were put in a very embarrassing and uncomfortable position.

FannyCornforth

Thisismyname Carol McGiffin was sacked from ITV because she said some strange things about Covid

carole wasn't sacked.
they put certain clauses in a new contract and wanted her to sign it she refused and walked away!
she has been on gb news explaining this.

ITV done this to dan wootton, eamonn holmes also... there are certain subjects on itv that cannot be discussed.

It isn’t just lying about an ‘affair’. He wouldn’t be leaving itv and losing his career over an ‘affair’
Where’s the evidence he tried to protect the young man? He got moved when Schofield ended the relationship

I don't think he had a sexual relationship with an underage boy - he described the relationship as unwise but legal. The boy was underage when he first met him. It sounds as though Schofield was trying to protect the young man's identity as he didn't want to come out. Schofield is a prat but is only doing what thousands of men - and women - have done for years - lie about their affairs.

Thisismyname Carol McGiffin was sacked from ITV because she said some strange things about Covid

The BBC nearly as bad but their main fault is wheeling out those 3 women pensioners of a morning on the customer rights programme. Why are they still boring us at the age of 80+?

They are not all 80+ and the BBC was found guilty of age discrimination so are careful to include older, experienced people in their programmes.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/hyde-actor-meets-morning-phillip-7506214

The issue here is not just a question of how old the young man in question is - I have heard, from numerous sources, that Schofield met him when he was just 15, although supposedly the relationship did not start until he was "legal". It is also an issue of abuse of power - a much older powerful man, potentially grooming a very much younger one who was in a subordinate position to him. No way did Holly not know, at least according to all the former ITV/This Morning employees who are now speaking out. Apparently it was an open secret, but ITV have extremely good lawyers and nobody wanted to risk it - even assuming there was a direct path to doing anything about it in the first place, which is unlikely. I knew when Schofield resigned from This Morning that a story was about to break - and I was right. I think there is much more to come on this issue, not least the alleged culture of bullying and intimidation at ITV - so many have spoken out against this, now it is all over the media. This Morning needs to go - if ITV want to salvage anything from this mess then they need a new show with new faces, they have already lost tens of millions in advertising money as companies distance themselves from the scandal. Schofield is a liar and a cheat, I would not believe a word he says and I think there will be many more revelations to come.

lemsip

fancythat

Having read a bit more online about Mr McGreevy, is it just possible that he was using "contacts" as well?
As a teenager he was an athlete[competing in European Championships 2016 apparently] plus being an actor before he was 20.
Just musing. Could be wrong.

you really should check before you post rubbish! google him first.

Did goo gle. What is wrong with what I wrote?

The Prince's Trust has dropped PS as an ambassador.

he had no choice the injunction he took out end in July when it would come common knowledge. They wasn't just one runner involved but 2.He started when the lad was 12 and attended a theatre company he ran called Two Face.When the lad became to old he started with a younger one.It was common knowledge in TV land but he was there golden boy

ITV morning programmes need a good shake up . Philip is not the only presenter that needs to go . Good morning Britain is so stale . The presenters just seem to want to wind the viewers up whether the subject is The Government or Brexit or The Pandemic . They are constantly scare mongering . This Morning has been following the same format for many years and needs a shake up of presenters , not just Philip.
Lorraine needs to be sent back to Scotland but all the presenters that stand in for her need to be axed too .
I also cannot stand to watch Loose Women , they are a coven of nasty witches , except for Ruth , Colleen and Carol who doesn’t seem to be on it now .
The BBC nearly as bad but their main fault is wheeling out those 3 women pensioners of a morning on the customer rights programme. Why are they still boring us at the age of 80+? Surely it it time to give the new younger talent coming out of acting school a chance to get onto TV .
I suspect Gloria Honeyford et al must have a contract to carry on until they reach 100 or die, whichever comes first!

*immediately. Fat fingers!

Yes paid off! not a good look for ITV is it, especially as he was also innediately given a job on Loose Women.

Apparently ITV paid the young man off it is now being reported. If this is correct then heads at the top really should roll. The whole business stinks.

It appears the proverbial hit the fan at The Television Awards in 2020 when McGreevy, obviously a bit tired and emotional publicly declared his love for Phillip.
That went down so well that not long after Phillip announced he was gay. As if anyone needed to be told 😱

Further stuff from Dr Ranj
www.lbc.co.uk/news/dr-ranj-singh-hits-back-photo-phillip-schofield-ex-lover/

FannyCornforth

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I obviously dont know the ins and outs and I certainly was not a fan of the man.

I cant believe I am saying this BUT I feel an element of sympathy for him and Im not quite understanding why matters in his personal life has caused ALLLLL THIS ?

He knew, she knew, they knew.... but what has it all to do with his career?

And now Eammon has waded in !! I love Eammon and ok from what I read, he not a fan of Mr Schofields, BUT once again thats a personal, private issue...

As I said, I am certainty not a fan of Philip Schofield........ BUT.