Phillip schofield

Has anyone else noticed that the op, Nellenoxin, hasn’t returned to the thread?
I haven’t seen the name before.
I did wonder at the time if someone at HQ had perhaps started the thread, as we were quite late having a Schofield thread on here…

The media report truth and lies, the charges against Caroline
Flack were not just reported, she was judged as Schofield is being judged and it’s brutal.

No one on this forum knows what he is thinking yet claim to know what he is thinking.

Yes I make judgements about domestic assault.

If the charges have been heard in court ?

If someone has been charged with any crime we all make some judgements about it. I take domestic assault very seriously. I think society should take it seriously too. Otherwise we go back to a situation where society sees it as just something that happens in some homes.

If charged and found guilty?

She admitted hitting him. They were fighting for a caution.

FannyCornforth

Has anyone else noticed that the op, Nellenoxin, hasn’t returned to the thread?
I haven’t seen the name before.
I did wonder at the time if someone at HQ had perhaps started the thread, as we were quite late having a Schofield thread on here…

Could be anyone.

Someone from ITV?
Or BBC?

Bad publicity is better than no publicity.

She hanged herself in February, was to appear in court in March

Yes I know the case Annie.
We cant not go ahead with charges of that nature because people may harm themselves.

Anyone whoever they are if they reach out and admit to being in a dark place they need help and support pronto.

How they got to be in a dark place becomes irrelevant until the darkness begins to lift and the person is able to function both mentally and physically once again

Just reading the comments on here as I don’t watch This Morning, it would appear that this show has thrown a few people under the bus, so to speak. Maybe the show has run it’s course.

Annie

Galaxy

Yes I know the case Annie.
We cant not go ahead with charges of that nature because people may harm themselves.

Agreed, but it could be less of a media/social media feeding frenzy.
I suppose we could say they sign up for that when they take such a visible job.

I agree its difficult but how would you change it. I am talking about CF rather than Schofield, you cant have different rules for famous people.

Galaxy

I agree its difficult but how would you change it. I am talking about CF rather than Schofield, you cant have different rules for famous people.

I don’t know. And you absolutely can’t have different rules for famous people (though I’m not convinced it doesn’t happen.
But the relentless media publicity, even the self created stuff by PS on BBC, would make it difficult for anyone affected to get a fair trial if it came to that.
Look at the microcosm of GN. Some have already made up their minds that PS was grooming. The suggestions that there are even worse things to come, have already been voiced.

In domestic abuse unless there is clear evidence of violence it very hard to prove coercive abuse. Arrests may be followed by charges, but charges not brought because of

the victim doesn't not wish to proceed because it means dragging through it again and fear

tho charges brought weight of evidence not sufficient in complex matters when final decisions made.

People often say, based on media publicity, that someone won’t get a fair trial. If they were to sit in court and watch a trial by jury, the way evidence is presented and people are cross-examined, they would realise that things in a courtroom look very different to sensationalist news items and social media gossip.

I think we have to explore really difficult topics. When is having a relationship with a young person who you knew at 15 ok? We should as a society be able to talk about those issues.
Is what woody allan did ok? Should we not talk about that.
I am not comparing the two I just think if we dont talk about moral issues relating to power and young people we let them down.

Not possible to wipe from people’s minds what they have read

Usually, Annie, they have only read one side of the story. In court both sides are told.

Galaxy

I think we have to explore really difficult topics. When is having a relationship with a young person who you knew at 15 ok? We should as a society be able to talk about those issues.
Is what woody allan did ok? Should we not talk about that.
I am not comparing the two I just think if we dont talk about moral issues relating to power and young people we let them down.

I agree with you.

Was there a relationship ?

FannyCornforth

NanaDana I don’t think that I have seen any ageist comments; or anything unfavourable about Mr Fry in particular.

You missed this then.. "Have you ever seen anybody looking so bored and uninterested as Stephen Fry’s very young husband? Every photo I have ever seen of them, he looks like he would rather be anywhere else." I'll refrain from attributing it.

Anniebach

Not possible to wipe from people’s minds what they have read

Absolutely, Anniebach. That's exactly why the European Court of Human Rights, in considering has the issue of excessive media coverage, has ruled that such coverage of a case can breach the right to a fair trial . They have also ruled that "an extremely negative press campaign.. may affect the fairness of the trial and the impartiality of the jury . "