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nellenoxin Sat 27-May-23 18:11:44

Am I being a bit slow but why is Phillip Schofield being thrown under the bus now? He came out about his sexuality , now revelations about an affair with consensual teenager that he covered up to protect identity , Maybe I'm being naïve but not sure why there has been such a big disconnect from TV at this point .

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 17:36:10

Allegedly.

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 17:35:50

Anniebach

If , as been reported , the young man was 18 years old what is there to keep quiet about ?

The fact that he was significantly younger when they met at a children's theatre group of which PS is a sponsor, and that they remained in touch between then and now. That he may well have been younger than 18 when the 'relationship' started. That he was groomed with promises of a job and further TV opportunities. That he was given a job until PS tired of him and was then summarily sacked. That there was a culture of fear that prevented colleagues from protecting the boy and/or speaking out about it all. And who knows what else.

Smileless2012 Mon 29-May-23 17:33:42

You made the link Forsythia when you posted "what a family".

Smileless2012 Mon 29-May-23 17:32:24

MJ was tried and cleared in a court of law 3nanny.

Anniebach Mon 29-May-23 17:30:57

If , as been reported , the young man was 18 years old what is there to keep quiet about ?

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 17:17:56

Thanks Doodledog
I really appreciate your contributions, as is usual, you often express what I feel better than I can.

I’ve been following this for several years, and my opinions have got nothing to do with ‘witch hunts’ and ‘tarring with the same brush’.

I knew that Schofield was a bad ‘un prior to the business with his brother

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 17:15:53

I agree that there is nothing wrong with being gay, and it is his business. I think that even if he were having an affair whilst pretending to be happily married it is his business. I am not someone to knit at a guillotine, and I firmly believe that people's private lives are their own.

But I also believe that nobody should have the power to coerce others, and to silence anyone who tries to speak out. That happened with Jimmy Saville, and it cannot be allowed to happen again. Clearly, going to the top at ITV was fruitless. Ruth Langsford did that, and so did the doctor, to no avail.

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that MM's parents were involved in any of this? AFAIK there is absolutely no suggestion of that. But yes, it will all come out unless even more dirty deals are able to be done. I doubt it though, as now that people are talking about it, it will be harder to keep things quiet.

3nanny6 Mon 29-May-23 17:08:29

Doodledog :

I didn't know that accusations about P.S. had been around for years. I didn't know he was gay until it was announced on the morning program. It is his own private business any way and it is up to him if he identifies as gay.

Where there is wrong doing or alleged wrong doing people will be adding fuel to the fire and it looks like a case could come up against P.S. It is like what happened to Michael Jackson the parents of the young boy in question were happy to let the boy stay at MJs mansion then later when he was a bit older everything blew up about sexual abuse. It will all come out sooner or later.

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 17:05:28

Smileless2012

I wouldn't want a member of my family to be tarred with the same brush because for example his brother's now a convicted paedophile; would you Forsythia.

I don’t think they are Smileless, do you? It’s a different scenario but concerning as more and more is revealed.

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 16:53:20

No. The situation with the brother (which was not about 'just' watching porn) is entirely separate, although it may have encouraged people to come forward as they'd had enough of the lies.

PS is not being tarred with the same brush as TS. The accusations against PS have been around for years. This is very clear from the number of people saying that it was an open secret. Not just This Morning presenters, but people like Joan Collins, who have no hand to play. The boy had a job on set, and was taxied to and from PS's flat - that is on record, as expenses were paid by ITV.

I understand that people who were not aware of any of this might feel that PS has been tried by a kangaroo court, but this has been coming for a very long time, and is not news. The papers are being careful, as ££££ are at stake, and one false move could be costly, but unless someone is able to silence everyone, it will all come out in the wash.

3nanny6 Mon 29-May-23 16:39:02

When Philip Schofield came out on being gay it was all over the morning show, and Holly was all doe eyed and crying saying how wonderful Philip was and he was an amazing friend. If I
remember correctly they even baked him a lovely cake. I do not care one way or another as basically never really have the show on anymore.
One thing for sure just look how the tables turn and Philip is not so loved now or is it because all the media attention on Philip now is because his brother has just been sentenced to twelve years in prison and so he is being tarred with the same brush.

Galaxy Mon 29-May-23 16:24:17

Exposing minors to sexual material is illegal.

Smileless2012 Mon 29-May-23 16:20:28

I wouldn't want a member of my family to be tarred with the same brush because for example his brother's now a convicted paedophile; would you Forsythia.

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 16:18:19

FannyCornforth

Anniebach

Watching porn is not having underage sex

Yes, but Timothy Schofield was jailed for six years for having sex with the underage boy on several occasions

Yes, you don't get 12 years for masturbating in front of porn, which is supposedly what he admitted to PS.

MM has now said that despite ITV's insistence that there was an investigation, he was never asked about his 'relationship' with PS. They say that fish rot from the head down. . .

Oreo Mon 29-May-23 16:15:41

Casdon

Iam64

This young man appears to have been groomed by Schofield. Schofield says their sexual relationship was unwise but legal. Consensual sex at 16 is legal, providing there is no power imbalance, eg teacher-pupil.
We don’t have clear information on ‘legal’ aspects. We do have enough to conclude this young man was groomed. It’s nothing like a witch hunt, no comparison with the investigation triggered by Nick.

By the accounts he was at least 18, as it was after he started working for the show. I agree that he was groomed.
The element of this saga that strikes me as a witch-hunt is the making up of additional information around the circumstances which are not in the public domain yet, if they ever will be. It seems that Schofield’s actions have been the catalyst for a lot of hate and grudges to be aired, so it’s almost impossible to see the truth, It’s almost like the witch is dead, but let’s drown, burn and hang draw and quarter him as well. And sad to say there are some Gransnetters contributing to the spectacle.

Just what I was thinking Casdon contributing to the spectacle and enjoying themselves.Some comments could well be libellous too.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 16:09:23

Anniebach

Watching porn is not having underage sex

Yes, but Timothy Schofield was jailed for six years for having sex with the underage boy on several occasions

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 16:05:12

Anniebach

I doubt your cousins would tell you if they were interested

I doubt they would AnnieBach but given that I know all of them very well I think it unlikely. From years and years of knowing them, their wives and their families.
How about you and your family? Do you know them all well?

fancythat Mon 29-May-23 16:02:52

eazybee
Philip Schofield's relationship, whilst immoral as he was married, was between two consenting adults and was not illegal. It is not for the presenters of a TV programme to make public their opinion of his actions in such a way that it feeds unpleasant speculation and innuendo until relevant information, if there is any, is released.

It does beg the question, if there are things to tell, of what they are supposed to do?
Apparently, so some are saying, bosses investigated and were told nothing was happening.

Anniebach Mon 29-May-23 15:58:09

I doubt your cousins would tell you if they were interested

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 15:54:26

It’s odd he said that at his brother’s trial. Perhaps his brother told him to stop too but he hasn’t gone to prison for it. As I’ve said before, what a family.

I’ve got 30 male cousins in all kinds of families and not one, let alone two, would be interested in grooming young under age boys for sex.

Anniebach Mon 29-May-23 15:53:50

Watching porn is not having underage sex

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-May-23 15:47:20

Theexwife

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.

Phillip Schofield took the stand at his brother’s trial, he told the court that his brother had admitted to him that he and an underage boy were watching pornography together.

PS told the court that he told his brother to stop immediately, but didn’t report his brother to the police at the time.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 15:46:36

Continued to keep in under wraps, that should read

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 15:45:49

Theexwife

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.

I think that Schofield and ITV could have kept it all under wraps, but due to the crimes of his brother, and what is mentioned above, there was renewed journalistic (and public) interest in the McGreevy story.

Theexwife Mon 29-May-23 15:31:41

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.