Phillip schofield

This man is a disgrace he had led a life based on lies and deseat.
He was a man who lead a very privileged lifestyle and had it all at his feet only to want more more more.
Now he has lost everything let that be a lesson to others be happy with what you have,
The grass is never greener ......

German Shepherd's Mum: You say : "I have read nothing about this matter other than on this thread and have avoided so far as possible mentions on the news." Really? I find that amazing, bearing in mind some of the statements you have made regarding what you think about who did what/said what/and who was "used and cast aside" etc. I thought it was at least based on something from some of the more responsible media. So you're basing all your accusatory stuff on what you've read here. Wow. And you're a lawyer? I suspect that the rightly revered late Lord Denning would be revolving at some rate based on the total absence of any evidence in your findings... Excuse my slightly disrespectful tone, but I am truly astounded.

You seem to have a problem with me and my career NanaDana. I have said nothing about ‘who did or said what’ other than to comment here on what others have said. I assure you that his lordship would not be revolving at what I have said, though I have no doubt he would not approve of social media - and I wouldn’t be posting here were I still practising. Perhaps you should examine my posts more carefully. ‘Accusatory stuff’? Really?

Once again, the police are not investigating. There’s been no complaint of illegal activity. That does not and should not stop the discussion about whether someone in the position of teacher, social worker, tv mentor, sports coach who first meets someone aged 15 is wise to develop a sexual relationship when it becomes ‘legal’
Anyone who has supported adults who much later feel brave enough to name what happened to them as abuse will recognise this.

Iam64

Once again, the police are not investigating. There’s been no complaint of illegal activity. That does not and should not stop the discussion about whether someone in the position of teacher, social worker, tv mentor, sports coach who first meets someone aged 15 is wise to develop a sexual relationship when it becomes ‘legal’
Anyone who has supported adults who much later feel brave enough to name what happened to them as abuse will recognise this.

I agree Iam64, that’s important. It just shouldn’t be hung around PS neck that he is personally guilty until we know that he is from the young man involved, or from others if there are some, and some people on this thread are doing that without any evidence (not you).

Thanks Casdon for acknowledging my point of view.

Germanshepherdsmum

You seem to have a problem with me and my career NanaDana. I have said nothing about ‘who did or said what’ other than to comment here on what others have said. I assure you that his lordship would not be revolving at what I have said, though I have no doubt he would not approve of social media - and I wouldn’t be posting here were I still practising. Perhaps you should examine my posts more carefully. ‘Accusatory stuff’? Really?

No, I don't have a problem either with you or your career. Why would I? I don't even know you. I'm merely surprised that you, particularly so as a lawyer, admit that all your comment on the case is based entirely on what you've read here on social media, a medium of which your "Lord Denning" would not approve. You then don't appear to believe that this limits both the credibility and the credentials of some of the judgmental, and yes, accusatory statements you have made about the case. Whether or not you originated the statement or merely "commented on what others have said" is totally irrelevant, and it is disingenuous to even suggest that this somehow makes a difference. To associate yourself with, and in some cases reinforce such statements, many of which are pure, unsubstantiated speculation, is your own choice, and those are your own words. So don't be surprised to find that a number of contributors here, myself included, have chosen to challenge you on occasion, and may no doubt continue to do so if any further examples of unsubstantiated "trial by social media" emerge. As for examining your posts more carefully for examples of "accusatory stuff", I've already commented on those, as have others, so why would that need to be revisited?

I think that it is very unlikely that there will be charges brought about Schofield's relationship with the runner. It remains to be seen whether charges based on other matters will be filed, and if there are any, I doubt we will hear much about it until they happen.

As for my speculating about the boy's feelings - how is that different from the speculation about how terrible Schofield is feeling? All we know is that he has had meetings with his mum - once where they walked in a field with his mum using her Zimmer, and the other when they sat in a car (both times just as paparazzi happened to be walking by with cameras), and that he was allowed the opportunity to put his case in interviews with the BBC and the Sun newspaper, in which he says that he is on the brink of suicide. Weren't those photos and interviews likely to prejudice any trial?

If we can speculate about how true Schofield's story is, why is speculating that the boy must also be feeling bad somehow worse?

Doodledog

I think that it is very unlikely that there will be charges brought about Schofield's relationship with the runner. It remains to be seen whether charges based on other matters will be filed, and if there are any, I doubt we will hear much about it until they happen.

As for my speculating about the boy's feelings - how is that different from the speculation about how terrible Schofield is feeling? All we know is that he has had meetings with his mum - once where they walked in a field with his mum using her Zimmer, and the other when they sat in a car (both times just as paparazzi happened to be walking by with cameras), and that he was allowed the opportunity to put his case in interviews with the BBC and the Sun newspaper, in which he says that he is on the brink of suicide. Weren't those photos and interviews likely to prejudice any trial?

If we can speculate about how true Schofield's story is, why is speculating that the boy must also be feeling bad somehow worse?

Because by your account he is the victim, is vulnerable and doesn’t deserve to have his life exposed all over the media and social media.

Well said Doodledog
NanaDana - your contributions seem aimed at criticising GSM rather than adding anything constrictive to what is at times an unnecessarily heated debate

Legally he has done nothing wrong. He has lost his job, won’t be able to work on tv again I don’t suppose. He and the system is being investigated. His family must be mortified. Cannot people just leave it at that. I read how he and Holly, made guests feel insignificant and were unkind, both of them. Not pleasant people, but time to look at other news.

Thank you Iam. NanaDana seems to have chosen to make personal attacks on me rather than on others venturing an opinion. Why she has chosen to home in on me I don’t know unless she wishes to attack my professional credentials or has other motives, but frankly, as you say, it adds nothing to the discussion.

Thank you for pointing out that we cannot speculate should charges be brought GMS. Of course you’re right, you’re a lawyer after all. I’m sure people will have their opinions should charges be brought but they can’t express them publicly.
However no charges have been brought at this point, and from what we know, which isn’t much, it seems unlikely that any will be brought. The young man has said nothing and so we do not know his perspective, but until we know his opinions, it’s pure speculation. It’s hyped up by the media.

Thanks maddy.

The young man isn't in the same position as Schofield, though. He won't have a PR team arranging for photographers to walk past when he's looking bereft, or for Amol Rajan to give him a really easy interview (ditto the Sun one).

It's all more of the same, isn't it - someone with power and someone without, and the powerful one coming off best.

No Doodledog, the young man isn’t in the same position as PS, but maybe he doesn’t want to be. Maybe he wants to be left alone and for everyone to stop the speculation and let him get on with his life. I suspect that’s how I might feel if I was in his shoes. We cannot know what he wants or thinks, it’s our speculation.

maddyone

No Doodledog, the young man isn’t in the same position as PS, but maybe he doesn’t want to be. Maybe he wants to be left alone and for everyone to stop the speculation and let him get on with his life. I suspect that’s how I might feel if I was in his shoes. We cannot know what he wants or thinks, it’s our speculation.

Exactly that maddyone. Let’s just leave this poor young man alone and stop picking over his bones.

As I have said before I am not a fan of Philip Schofield, never have been so I can't suddenly proclaim to be, but this situation is soooo uncomfortable to hear, read, watch. The poor man is suicidal, enough is enough.... my head is full to busting with sorrow for him and i echo the words Alison Hammond spoke last week on TM "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Enough is enough....

Mary59nana

This man is a disgrace he had led a life based on lies and deseat.
He was a man who lead a very privileged lifestyle and had it all at his feet only to want more more more.
Now he has lost everything let that be a lesson to others be happy with what you have,
The grass is never greener ......

Yeah. But
We’re not talking about Prince Harry on this thread.😁

Casdon

maddyone

No Doodledog, the young man isn’t in the same position as PS, but maybe he doesn’t want to be. Maybe he wants to be left alone and for everyone to stop the speculation and let him get on with his life. I suspect that’s how I might feel if I was in his shoes. We cannot know what he wants or thinks, it’s our speculation.

Exactly that maddyone. Let’s just leave this poor young man alone and stop picking over his bones.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I'm not sure why he is being referred to as a 'poor young man'. From what I've read he is getting on with his life. Good for him.

There are photos online this morning of PS with his mum, arms around each other and looking sad, when apparently PS is breaking the news to her.

Who arranged for a photographer to be there to record the moment and pass on the photos? Cynical moi??

I returned to the thread this morning and found to my surprise and, I must admit, my slight amusement, that I have been accused of "singling out" someone, for a "personal attack". Really? Yes, I have been critical of unsubstantiated, accusatory comments which have been made about the Schofield case, which I would argue could certainly be described as "personal attacks",. a position which I have consistently taken against anyone and everyone who has joined the speculative feeding frenzy which surrounds this deeply unpleasant episode. Check it out on this thread. So yes, I admit to "singling out" and responding to a certain mindset, but never an individual. As for my comments relating to the views of the "victim" of my alleged persecution, my attention was first drawn to the playing down of adverse media influence on the trial process. The fact that this opinion was expressed by someone trained in the legal profession both surprised and interested me, so I responded simply by saying that The Human Court of Human Rights did not agree, and had legislated accordingly. The rather dismissive reply I then received, (check it out),which even referred (why?) to a meeting with Lord Denning, went on to admit that the contributor had "studiously avoided" news items about the case, and seemed to find it a positive when they admitted that their opinion was solely informed by what they had seen on this thread. Was it unreasonable for me to then respond in a critical, questioning manner to such an astounding admission? There is confusion here between what is a "personal attack", and what is simply reasoned critical debate based around conflicting opinions. I challenge anyone here to check my posts and to show where I have made such an attack. Please feel free to refer any such example to GN for moderation. Sorry, but the only "victims" here are those who are directly involved in the case, many of who have been subjected to unwarranted, accusatory speculation. What I do have in common with those who have chosen to "pick over the bones" in that way is that none of us actually know what happened, other than the lying and the adultery. I'll leave it there.

Sparklefizz - I saw those staged photographs and share your views. How low to stoop, to use your aging mother as a prop in your attempt to manipulate.

Iam64

Sparklefizz - I saw those staged photographs and share your views. How low to stoop, to use your aging mother as a prop in your attempt to manipulate.

I doubt the photos were staged I imagine that there is at least one if not more paparazzi following PS’s every move…