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New Agatha Christie!

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keepcalmandcavachon Thu 21-Dec-23 16:07:54

So pleased to have another Christmas Christie to watch-
Wed 27, Thur 28 9pm BBC1, horray! Murder Is Easy
Would love to watch And Then There Were None and The Pale Horse if they show those again.......

luluaugust Sun 31-Dec-23 10:58:41

Siope you are so right. When I was young the word coloured was used by my parents, at that time I think it was considered polite!!

TerriBull Sun 31-Dec-23 11:55:16

I've just realised where I've seen the lead actor, David Jonsson, "Industry" a bit on the rude side, but I enjoyed it. I knew from the trailers he seemed vaguely familiar. Anyway still haven't watched Murder is Easy so nothing to contribute really other than that bit of information.

Aveline Sun 31-Dec-23 11:56:46

It's interesting to see how attitudes and values have changed over the years. That's another reason why I enjoy reading old books.

Maremia Sun 31-Dec-23 12:00:02

For whom was this production created? For history buffs? Or for today's multicultural audience?

Callistemon21 Sun 31-Dec-23 12:08:31

luluaugust

Siope you are so right. When I was young the word coloured was used by my parents, at that time I think it was considered polite!!

Siope yes, I agree, but as trends and expressions change, it must be difficult for some people to keep up. When they hear the term "person of colour" used by well-known people like Diane Abbott it may be confusing that using the term "person of colour" is correct but "coloured person" is not.

As far as drama goes, I like a period piece to be true to the era it's set in as that makes it more interesting to me. Chacun à son goût.

The problem with this adaptation of a Christie story, is that it was a clunky adaptation, with a clunky script, badly produced and badly acted.
Interesting point, M0nica as the actors are well-known and experienced - perhaps they were all sending it up! 🤔
More farce than murder mystery which is a pity.

Aveline Sun 31-Dec-23 12:12:16

ITV did Poirot very well indeed. No big deal or insertion of current hot topics. Good quality viewing. Foyles War was excellent too.

glammagran Sun 31-Dec-23 12:16:34

Probably not helped by having the 2 Scottish actors from Shetland trying to talk in plummy English accents and making a hash of it.

Callistemon21 Sun 31-Dec-23 12:35:52

glammagran

Probably not helped by having the 2 Scottish actors from Shetland trying to talk in plummy English accents and making a hash of it.

That's when I thought it was a send-up 😁

Although I did enjoy seeing them

Iam64 Sun 31-Dec-23 15:03:54

It definitely had a Pantomime feel - oh yes it did

M0nica Sun 31-Dec-23 16:05:01

Callistemon In the same post I commented that my daughter, a trained actor who worked in the media for many years blamed the bad acting on bad direction.

However even good actors can have bad productions when no one seems to be able to do a good job, in the samw way that superb football teams have games when all of them are having an off day together.

Eloethan Sun 31-Dec-23 22:38:33

I can see no reason why a black actor can't play Miss Marple or almost any other character for that matter. I particularly referred to the black actor because he was the principal character in the story and he felt too young to me. At least his acting wasn't embarrassingly awful, unlike quite a few of the other characters. There has been talk of a black actor for James Bond - which is certainly not in keeping with the book - but there is no reason why the part can't be played by a black actor.

I thought virtually all the acting in Murder is Easy was dreadful (apart from Penelope Wilton) and really corny. but I suppose the whole plot was totally ridiculous anyway. If they had hammed it up just a little bit more it might have been a mildly amusing parody.

GrannyRose15 Mon 01-Jan-24 00:43:51

glammagran

Probably not helped by having the 2 Scottish actors from Shetland trying to talk in plummy English accents and making a hash of it.

That was the best bit. Persuaded me not to take the whole thing too seriously.

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 00:48:45

GrannyRose15

glammagran

Probably not helped by having the 2 Scottish actors from Shetland trying to talk in plummy English accents and making a hash of it.

That was the best bit. Persuaded me not to take the whole thing too seriously.

I'd like to find a screen shot of them in their cricket sweaters!

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 00:50:45

Found an image. Love it! 😃

GrannyRose15 Mon 01-Jan-24 03:20:36

Brilliant!

Calendargirl Mon 01-Jan-24 07:22:31

I can see no reason why a black actor can’t play Miss Marple

Well, I can. It would just come across as totally unrealistic.

NanKate Mon 01-Jan-24 07:30:07

I thought Dougie Henshall looked suddenly older and a bit porky, very different from when he was in Shetland.

I liked to see all the lovely clothes of the 1950s.

The young black actor looked about 18 but I’m sure I must be wrong. I didn’t realise he was supposed to be a replacement for Miss Marple. He looked so smart, how did he get all those pressed suits in his suitcase 😀

Kandinsky Mon 01-Jan-24 08:45:08

I can see no reason why a black actor can't play Miss Marple

How many elderly black women lived in sleepy English villages circa 1935?
It’s ridiculous.
It’s as ridiculous as a white man playing Nelson Mandela.

Iam64 Mon 01-Jan-24 09:00:58

NanKate, he wasn’t a replacement for Miss Marple. He was a replacement for a white man, recently returned from what Agatha often called the colonies.

Calendargirl Mon 01-Jan-24 09:15:32

Miss Marple was not in the ‘Murder Is Easy’ book.

She was shoe horned in in one of the tv adaptations, the one with Benedict Cumberbatch I think.

Ilovecheese Mon 01-Jan-24 10:59:25

Fancy! 1954 and nobody smoked!

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 11:10:13

Ilovecheese

Fancy! 1954 and nobody smoked!

😁

Doodledog Mon 01-Jan-24 11:26:33

Calendargirl

Miss Marple was not in the ‘Murder Is Easy’ book.

She was shoe horned in in one of the tv adaptations, the one with Benedict Cumberbatch I think.

Nobody seems to object to a whole character being erroneously inserted into an adaptation, but a change of skin colour and all hell breaks loose grin

Maremia Mon 01-Jan-24 11:41:10

I thought they were playing tennis? Loved seeing 'Thomas' from Ghosts in another role. Think he was also in a Death in Paradise.

Aveline Mon 01-Jan-24 12:21:58

I object to both Doodledog. Have now lost faith in BBCs taste and choice of scriptwriters.