Serious subject experts (women) dressing for clubbing

I was interviewing people for a social care post Primrose53 and one candidate was well ahead of all the others and would have been a real asset to any team. She had several facial piercings. As the interview concluded she said " of course if I am successful I will remove the facial jewellery when I am working". One might question the wisdom of wearing them to the interview but that candidate has stuck in my mind.

I am torn on this, on one hand it’s the 21st century and women should be able to wear whatever they like. On the other women and to some extent men are still tied to social norms…

As women we make judgements about each other for sure, but we also do it about men too. Just less so. Personally, I don't like to see men topless in any situation other than on a beach. Why? Because I can't. It seems to me that men get away with allsorts of tarty wear on Strictly and no one bats an eyelid. Why?

I do also think that some women just aren't aware of how they look. On a train the other other day a young woman was wearing jeans with her underwear showing- proudly proclaiming 'Victoria's Secret' in sparkly letters. When I had to get past her to leave the train I really wanted to say, 'It isn't a secret, is it?' but was sure she wouldn't understand what I meant.
Live and let live I suppose, but was glad she wasn't my granddaughter!

Callistemon21

Well, my favourite local weatherman is 59

And would he happen to be 59 today 🤔🎂*Callistemon*?

I wonder if it’s just a generational dislike? I can image some in their 20’s and 30’s would be more likely to approach and engage with a doctor, social worker or others not dressed so formally.
I’ll ask my children, both in their 30’s.

It's true that we judge people by their choice of clothing. It's also true that people feel freer to comment on a woman presenter's wardrobe than they will for a male presenter.

On TV a few years ago a female meteorologist who presents the weather on our station went on to say that she constantly got remarks about her choice of clothing, her hair, etc., when her male counterparts never did, especially while she was pregnant. She brought it up on the news broadcast to bring this to public attention, and hopefully shame those that felt free to write in complaints. The news station firmly stood by her decision to bring this up on air.

I very rarely watch daytime TV since I still work, but when I do I'm always a bit amazed at the height of the heels worn by female hosts or presenters. I feel a bit sad that there is still societal pressure to squeeze feet into exaggerated postures to look feminine and powerful.

Judy54

No you are not wrong. I attended a funeral recently and one of the Mourners although wearing a black dress accessorised it with large diamante earrings and necklace. She was wearing killer heels and bright red lipstick and definitely looked as though She was going out clubbing rather than attending a funeral.

What is wrong here is not that she looks as if she is going clubbing but that the mourner is dressed to attract attention to herself, which is what you should not do at a funeral. A funeral is all about the deceased.

Male or female there has always been a sense of dress appropriate to the occasion and while the definition of appropriate may vary over time. i still think that is true.

I am often conscious when you see male and female experts together, the men will have got informal but smart just right. Think Prince William, while the women will look as if they have been dragged through a hedge backwards.

Alice Roberts is an archaeologist, she is often filmed out on site and she dresses like an archaeologist. (my son is a porfessional archaeologist and I am an amateur, I know how archaeologists dress). I doubt, if receiving a News Year Honour from the King she would dress like that.

Beechnut

Callistemon21

Well, my favourite local weatherman is 59

And would he happen to be 59 today 🤔🎂*Callistemon*?

I think so, so happy birthday to him 🎂🎉
I also rather like Charlie 😁

Yes, totally agree OP. There is a guest on Talkradio, Saturday night. Boobs out, legs on show, tight clothes. On the show with 4/5 men but oh no, men aren't supposed to look at women or make flattering comments.

not another i am old so everybody should dress there age, my mum is 79 and shops in primark, if you don't like it turn the tv off.

2oaktrees

Yes, totally agree OP. There is a guest on Talkradio, Saturday night. Boobs out, legs on show, tight clothes. On the show with 4/5 men but oh no, men aren't supposed to look at women or make flattering comments.

Flattering? Dressing as you described my OH would comment “look at the state of that” she would get noticed for sure but not in a good way.
Some women are just clueless

The thread is not about dressing your age, Nexus, it’s about dressing appropriately for the occasion.

My husband would say that too Katie. Neither of us can stand Bethany Hughes with her acres of cleavage but enjoy watching Alice Roberts’s programmes.

If someone in the media is talking about a serious issue I don't need to be distracted with them being dressed up as if it's an episode of "look at me". I still find it difficukt to understand why females insist on dressing in basically sparkly bathing suits when performing. Yes, they may dance about a bit when singing but all the posing and scanty clothing, are they really necessary? We are our own worst enemy. Males don't seem to have the need to perform in budgie smugglers, shorts, bare chests. Of course many will say people should be allowed to wear what they want, when they want may. The mystery to me is still why they do especially when females have and still are striving to be resoected for our mind and not our bodies. I'm off now back to the 1950s.

Women are women's worst critics.

I agree. No class! There is a time and place for all styles of clothing. Too many women dress inappropriately for the setting. They haven’t figured out they sometimes look ridiculous.

What I’m reading lately is that ‘naked’ clothing (garishly cut-out outfits that reveal boobs, butts, etc) is on its way out.

Men are always covered up, women (exhibitionists?) are totally exposed. Or they do it to please their man.

Think about it.

MissAdventure

Women are women's worst critics.

Well men aren't allowed to criticise us anymore and being women we need someone to tell us we're wrong 😁

Very good point!!!

I don’t think men care how women dress ( unless it is their companion) they are quite happy to ridicule them or ignore them as they wish, one thing for sure if you dress like a hooker you will be treated like one.

That applies to other women too, they a vicious critics.

I often wonder if the studios have a mirror for presenters to check their appearance. Isn't there a wardrobe checker to make sure that they are not wearing white looks bad on TV ?Some colours , blocks colour and stripes do not look good on TV.
The person I think should have a mirror and brush is Kirsty Wark. . Have you ever seen Judi Dench looking less than elegant?

Jane Austen said it perfectly, over 200 years ago

Woman is fine for her own satisfaction alone. No man will admire her the more, no woman will like her the better for it. Neatness and fashion are enough for the former, and a something of shabbiness or impropriety will be most endearing to the latter

Although I think I would reverse the last two remarks. - Neatness and fashion are enough for the latter, and a something of shabbiness or impropriety will be most endearing to the former

I dont mind how people dress ... apart from obese people squashed into holey jeans where a huge lump of fat spills over the waistband ... how can anyone think their opinions will be taken seriously when they look like a tramp ( in the real meaning of the word )

One of the best Doctors I ever had dressed like a farmer minus the wellies. I'll never forget walking into the consulting room for the first time.

Suzieque66

I dont mind how people dress ... apart from obese people squashed into holey jeans where a huge lump of fat spills over the waistband ... how can anyone think their opinions will be taken seriously when they look like a tramp ( in the real meaning of the word )

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Those saying about dressing appropriately for a funeral, some I've attended have specified bright colours - no black.
My sister's funeral is next month so I've purchased a black dress and OH has a black suit and tie. We've now been asked to wear something in her favourite colour so I've purchased a coloured belt and scarf to go with the black dress, and a coloured tie for OH.
Maybe relatives don't want formal black.

If anyone wears black to my funeral I'll haunt them until the end of time!!