THE PUSH on Channel 4

Myself and husband were both wiping away tears watching the poor Mum too. That is rare for us! She was so dignified throughout and her love and pride in her daughter shone through.

Like Sparklefizz I can’t understand why she agreed to even go up Arthur’s Seat. They only had trainers on and she had a dress on. Unless, as you say, he was forcing her which now seems most likely.

That phonecall where he was shouting at her and telling her not to behave like a “British woman” and that she had better come back or else was just awful.

It just shows how deep their cultural beliefs go because he was very young and presumably born in this country so you would think going to school, maybe college and mixing with other people at work he might understand that women are not slaves and that honour based crime is totally wrong.

It was gripping viewing wasn't it. I did not warm to the in laws at all: the father in law, whilst watching a trial over the death of his " daughter " was aggrieved that the police had not returned the deceased woman's ( expensive he was keen that we should know) engagement ring to him.

She was already afraid of him and had made her decision to leave once they got home. Why oh why did she agree to go up to the top of Arthur's Seat which looked such a risky and difficult place to access, especially with the light fading and being pregnant? Was she coerced into going there?

I had only recently seen it on One Day on a lovely sunny day when Emma laughed at Dexter because he was struggling with the terrain. In The Push it looked creepy and menacing.

So sad. Like you, BlueBelle I cried with the Mum.

I m not saying that at all Primrose I totally understand the cultures I lived in a relationship suit a Middle Eastern man for 8 years however the vast number of marital or relationship murders in Uk are white men against white women nd we have to remember that
I thought the mum was lovely The men are not supposed to show emotions it doesn’t mean her Dad didn’t feel it as much though Sago

BlueBelle

Yes I watch and thought it was very very well done I cried with the mum when she gave that speech to the room of women
Although it’s a very different male orientated lifestyle we must not caught up with cultures only ….. whites women are killed every day by white men.

Indeed, But they are not forced into marriage, they are not killed in horrific ways because of family honour and they are not subjected to FGM as little girls. Thankfully the latter is now recognised as a crime but only last week a woman was convicted of FGM on a child.

I loved this, the victims mother behaved with such dignity.
I really felt for her that her husband never comforted her during the trial.

Their daughter was clearly quite Westernised, very bright and independent, so sad that this was a “love match” and not an arranged marriage.

I think the perpetrators family saw her as a cash cow and thought she would be under their control.

Sadly there were a few red flags that made me realise so many people who class themselves as British really do not accept or respect our culture.

Yes I watch and thought it was very very well done I cried with the mum when she gave that speech to the room of women
Although it’s a very different male orientated lifestyle we must not caught up with cultures only ….. whites women are killed every day by white men.

Sparklefizz

Anyone watching this? It's only in 2 parts ... shocking but very interesting how the case is built.

You beat me to it, Sparklefizz. There was another Scottish trial televised recently: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-67983653 - equally as interesting. I particularly liked 'The Push' because it clearly showed the differences between the 2 families and the Defence's summing up which, I feel, enabled the jury to reach their (majority) verdict.... A desperately sad situation, not forgetting the loss of the baby.....

I watched it too. These cultural differences are coming to light more and more. I found myself wondering why she didn't leave, she was a solicitor and must have known the law.
I thought she looked terrified on most of the photos and maybe was resigned to her fate, she seemed to know what might happen to her. I think she was completely demoralised by the husband and his terrible family. If only she had refused to go on that weekend away, as she was planning to leave him anyway it seemed.

A very very tragic story. It shows how coercive control can work on the most confident and intelligent person.

I echo what you both say.

I've watched the first part and a bit of the second, I'll catch up with the rest of it tonight.

What a tragedy, such a lovely young woman married to a very bullying man. I was so sorry for her parents, particularly her poor broken mum, she was their only child. I think the cultural practice of a woman having to go and live with her in- laws on marriage isn't great, this was an educated westernised girl, its a shame she didn't dig her heels on that score given that her husband soon showed his true colours in belittling and trying to subjugate her, she could certainly have done with her own very supportive family around her. The parents in- law showed horrible insensitivity, in the aftermath of her death in stating that on marriage "she became their daughter" as if it wasn't bad enough that her parents had lost their daughter, the in laws were trying to imply it was the loss was all theirs. It was all quite heartbreaking.

It was both shocking and very interesting. What a lovely girl with such devoted parents!

From the start I found her husband very arrogant and the tapes of him shouting and swearing at her were awful.

It is also shocking how these cultures still believe in things like honour killings, forced marriages, FGM etc.

When I lived and worked in the Midlands in the 70s and 80s it was a regular thing to read of young women setting fire to themselves rather than having a forced marriage.

I also witnessed first hand a lovely girl I worked with being dropped off at the workplace doors by one of her brothers and picked up dead on time at the end of the day. This was because she had become friendly with a white lad so her life as she knew it ended there and then. She had no freedom at all and I often wonder how her life panned out.

Very scary that times have changed little since then and it’s still going on.