BBC Sports Presenter Jermaine Jenas sacked

Bea65

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

Had the same thought loopyloo -how come a person of colour was dismissed immediately but HUW EDWARDS was treated differently..

Oh dear. Here we go. Why does colour always have to be a factor? It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the backlash the BBC received over their long, drawn-out handling of the Huw Edwards and Strictly situations. They don't intend making the same mistake again and show they will act swiftly in future and rightly so.

Jaxjacky

Bea65

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

Had the same thought loopyloo -how come a person of colour was dismissed immediately but HUW EDWARDS was treated differently..

I think colour is irrelevant, it’s a speedy reaction after the dithering with Huw Edwards.

I do too, it does sound like a pretty clear cut case. It’s different to the Huw Edwards case, in that the women involved have obviously come forward voluntarily and provided clear evidence. I very much doubt that colour had anything to do with this case, in the same circumstances any employee would be treated the same.

More women have come forward

It’s confirmed at least one wasn’t consensual which has legal complications according to the link I posted earlier

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

How fast was he sacked? The texts were reported weeks ago.

Men don’t complain because a woman sexting them because it’s good for their ego.
I had a brother-in-law who was after ‘anything in a skirt’ even tho I was 14/15 years old he thought it was ok to make sexual comments to me when my sister wasn’t around. Told Mum who told me to keep quiet! Years later when they divorced my sister said she wished we’d told her she’d have divorced him sooner! Amongst others he had an affair with my bothers then girlfriend-later wife.

Bea65

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

Had the same thought loopyloo -how come a person of colour was dismissed immediately but HUW EDWARDS was treated differently..

I think colour is irrelevant, it’s a speedy reaction after the dithering with Huw Edwards.

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

Had the same thought loopyloo -how come a person of colour was dismissed immediately but HUW EDWARDS was treated differently..

I strongly suspect he was abusing his position and that he had made unwelcome advances to a number of women. The BBC has treated him like it would any other employee who did that, which is reasonable, and it doesn’t look like he will take any action against them. I don’t think we need to know any further details if that is the case, I get so bored of the media wanting to squeeze every detail out of cases like this, and destroying peoples lives in the process - families go through the wringer, and that’s wrong.

As for women sexually harassing men, it does happen - it happened twice that I knew about when I was working. I think one of the reasons we don’t hear more about it though is that male victims are far less likely to complain to their managers about it.

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

Any one should be, never mind what skin colour they have. Don't you agree.
At least he's owned up to his wrong doing.

I don't think that firing someone for having an affair is appropriate (unless they are in the Church or similar). If they are TV presenters move them off Songs of Praise and other religious programmes, but whilst I am not condoning affairs, if both parties consent they are nobody's business but the families concerned.

Sexual harassment is different though. It's power play when it happens between 'the talent' (ie a high profile presenter) and someone lower down the pecking order. It doesn't matter if it's 'legal' in the sense that both parties are above the age of consent. People (usually women) should be able to go to work without fear of being treated as sex objects, and I agree with Jane that we should stop making excuses for the perpetrators - they know it's wrong.

Until we learn more about what happened in this case, which may never happen, we don't know if the BBC is being trigger-happy after the Huw Edwards case, but if something like this happened in most workplaces it would be seen as serious misconduct.

In the early eighties I worked for a specialist employment agency and we used canvas outside exam centres. My boss once said 'Mel (the other secretary) can hand out flyers in a tight t-shirt and short skirt and ... (me) can stay here and answer the phones' and we just did it!

It's hardly ever women. The only person I can think of who has been accused of anything similar is Lizzo

JaneJudge

never women though

What do you mean? 🤔

never women though

Merlot 👍🏻

loopyloo

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

What on earth has colour got to do with it?

I’ve already given two examples of white people being dropped like hot potatoes for inappropriate behaviour.

Seriously ?!

Interesting that a person of colour was fired so quickly from the bbc.

From 2010

"Manford apologised to fans and his family at the beginning of the month after he was accused of exchanging a series of Twitter messages with a 22-year-old female fan.

Following the allegations, the father-of-two issued an apology which said: "I can see now that what started out as a bit of messing about and having a laugh on Twitter has been misjudged and I'd like to apologise to anyone that this has offended as that was the last thing I ever intended to do.""

No boundaries and vanity

I’d be surprised if the sacking took place without the bbc lawyers advice.
Why should there be a warning? It’s alleged he persistently sexted one woman over 24 hours. I’d be worrying what kind of warning he was giving about escalating behaviour.

I thought Jason Manford was having an affair?

The curse of the One Show!

The same thing happened to Jason Manford yet he’s now back in favour.

Carol Thatcher got the sack for saying (in private) that she thought somebody’s hair looked like a Golly**g. Somebody snitched but there was nothing in writing.

Only an idiot would risk their career by sending inappropriate texts. Are they really so arrogant they think they will get away with it?

this is an interesting link to the legalities

We need to stop making excuses for men

He has admitted 'sexting' these women. I would just like to remind you all of that definition

^What is considered as sexting?
Sexting is the act of sending sexual text messages. It often also involves sending nude, seminude, or suggestive photos. Sometimes, the messages also include sexual or explicit videos. Sexting can happen via messaging on cell phones or other messaging services^

Apart from anything else, I imagine it was in his code of conduct as part pf his contract that he was not to send sexual texts to colleagues. Gross misconduct
It is how employment works