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Do They Know it's Christmas? Band Aid

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Sparklefizz Tue 26-Nov-24 13:51:43

Apparently some African people resent the "White Saviour" attitude towards them.
Over the years, the song has been criticised for what many percieve to be a “white saviour” attitude that perpetuates harmful stereotypes about Africa.

Would they prefer for themselves and their children to be left to die? Surely skin colour is irrelevant. What matters is genuine human kindness and helping one's fellow man. The Africans who allegedly resent it are unlikely to be the ones who are suffering.

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 13:51:12

It's easy to sit on your arse criticising, I guess, considering the idea was conceived forty years ago.

Bob got off his, did something, and coerced others (not all were willing, at first) to do the same by using their voices for the good of others.

Kate1949 Tue 26-Nov-24 11:59:04

If it helps someone surely it can't be a bad thing. Bob said this morning that some of the money is going to Sudan to help overcome the mass raping of women.

Allira Tue 26-Nov-24 11:45:01

Sarnia

I remember watching Bob Geldof on a chat show many years ago and he was asked if he knew where the money actually went. He got very annoyed when it was suggested that when the Band Aid millions reached Africa, corrupt leaders were ordering a new plane.

Apparently Ed Sheeran was upset that his vocals had been used without his permission on the new version as he has changed his views on the Band Aid charity:

Posting to Instagram Stories, Sheeran also shared a statement by Ghanaian-British musician Fuse ODG, who accused the campaign of “[dehumanising] Africans and [destroying] our pride and identity in the name of ‘charity’”.

“My approval wasn’t sought on this new Band Aid 40 release and had I had the choice I would have respectfully declined the use of my vocals,” Sheeran wrote.
A decade on and my understanding of the narrative associated with this has changed, eloquently explained by [Fuse ODG]. This is just my personal stance. I’m hoping it’s a forward-looking one. Love to all.”

Apparently some African people resent the "White Saviour" attitude towards them.
Over the years, the song has been criticised for what many percieve to be a “white saviour” attitude that perpetuates harmful stereotypes about Africa.

I'm ambivalent about it.

Ziggy62 Tue 26-Nov-24 11:01:02

I thought it was lovely that one of the pop stars of the time, forgotten his name, was on radio 2 yesterday and mentioned how lovely Paula Yates was to everyone on the day of the recording.
I don't think Bob was always the saint we were led to believe

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 10:47:57

He can be very attractive, when he's not sporting the "something the cat bought in" look.

Kate1949 Tue 26-Nov-24 10:44:01

I saw him on The One Show. He was on This Morning with Midge Ure. Bob looks rather attractive with his white hair and his lovely Irish accent.. Just saying blush I've never thought he was before.

MissInterpreted Tue 26-Nov-24 10:41:28

Yes, I think that's exactly what those lyrics meant. I think many of us have been guilty of thinking that way when we've seen horrific events unfold on the news.

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 10:39:46

Exactly that.

Calendargirl Tue 26-Nov-24 10:36:36

“Well tonight thank God it’s them instead of you”.

But true. How many of us, faced with the troubles of others, be it bereavement, illness, floods, famine… let’s be honest, we’ve all thought it.

“Thank God it’s not me, or mine”.

TerriBull Tue 26-Nov-24 10:05:09

He, Geldorf knows how to swear, he pitches his four letter words into the right context to give that word meaning, not the casual way it can be bandied around these days. For all his four letter expletives, he's amazingly erudite

nanna8 Tue 26-Nov-24 10:03:43

I can’t stand him, never have. Quite unreasonable of me, no reason really. Well there is, but it is complicated .

TerriBull Tue 26-Nov-24 10:01:16

I think he did something good and noble, straight from the heart which hopefully saved many lives and watching the Live Aid concert his heartfelt passion in endeavouring to raise as much money as possible was commendable. I can see in retrospect that at times, however well intentioned such causes were, they are viewed as patronising by Africans themselves. I remember buying the record but oh yes those lyrics "Thank God it's them instead of you" whoever wrote that line, it always sounded horribly shocking shock

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 09:58:01

There's nothing better than Bob having a go! smile

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 09:56:02

I went there for counselling for a little while.
It really good cause, and lunch sounds delicious.

I hope you have a wonderful time, and raise funds, too.
My daughter went there once, but she absconded!

I had a worried phone call asking if I'd seen her.

Sarnia Tue 26-Nov-24 09:55:06

I remember watching Bob Geldof on a chat show many years ago and he was asked if he knew where the money actually went. He got very annoyed when it was suggested that when the Band Aid millions reached Africa, corrupt leaders were ordering a new plane.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 26-Nov-24 09:50:43

MissAdventure

Oh, that sounds a nice event.
What's on the menu?
smile

First Christmas meal of the year, Turkey and all the trimmings.

It is for our local Hospice, I expect you know the one I mean, my darling Mum spent her last 11 days there. It is an odd thing to say but the Hospice is such a serene and surprisingly joyous place.

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 09:45:51

Oh, that sounds a nice event.
What's on the menu?
smile

GrannyGravy13 Tue 26-Nov-24 09:44:02

MissAdventure

Oh.
Lorraine.

I am channelling my inner sloth, not even dressed 🙀

In my defence I am about to shower and put my glam on for a charity lunch…

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 09:40:04

Oh.
Lorraine.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 26-Nov-24 09:39:24

Just seen him on Lorraine (don’t judge me 🤣)

Well done Sir Bob.

MissAdventure Tue 26-Nov-24 09:35:41

I've always been a big fan of Bob.
Anything he does is fine by me, and if that means stirring people up so be it. smile

kittylester Tue 26-Nov-24 08:47:01

And awareness.

Redhead56 Tue 26-Nov-24 08:26:33

I did see him on the One Show last night. Its a very good cause and as he said will continue to raise money.

Sparklefizz Tue 26-Nov-24 08:20:18

Did anyone see Bob Geldof on The One Show last night? I thought he came across very well and I was in tears by the end.

He is right, I think, that any controversy about the lyrics of the song brings it to public attention. I've always felt very uncomfortable about the line "Thank God it's them instead of you." which I see has been replaced in the latest version. The first few highly recognisable chords immediately make me feel choked, and bring the song and Live Aid back vividly.