Gregg Wallace : Another report

Just heard on Classic FM that Wallace has been whinging about "middle class women of a certain age".........yeah, keep on digging Greg, keep on digging........rock bottom can't be far off.

The middle age women thing is frequently used with regard to misogyny, it tends to be older women who highlight safeguarding concerns, there are various reasons for this, but we should never ignore them when they raise the red flag.

Shot himself in the foot vegansrock any vague vestige of rescue now gone, stupid as well as a lech.

Now he’s defending himself saying the complaints are from “middle class women of a certain age “. - oh that’s alright then.

I knew someone ,who complained to the BBC about his teenage daughter being molested by Jimmy Savile on Top of The Pops .
He had some connections with the BBC through his ex -wife and thought that he had some clout .
He was quickly told not to make accusations or else !
I've heard some unpleasant stories about other celebrities .
The trouble is for some arrogance combines with fame and a strong sense of entitlement .

This doesn't surprise me in the least. So many men are stuck in adolescence, and never lose their obsession with sex. Anyone who has watched his documentaries will be aware of how juvenile he is.

I find learning about how things are manufactured and the inner workings of factories fascinating .. but simply cannot watch his programme as he is so creepy.

Retroladywriting

Not surprised at all. He's always given me the heeby jeebies.

Just how I feel.

The sleaziest man I came up against was a police officer. His remarks were quite innocent, it was just his tone of voice that gave me the creeps. Then my 6' 4" husband joined me and he faded away.

Well I have to say that I'm shocked!
I though I was a good judge of character but this is a real curveball
I wouldn't have thought that Greg Wallace would be capable the of stuff that's been written about in the papers. He could be inoccent,
we shall see. Shocked! 😵

I’ve been on Gransnet for many years and I think attitudes have changed with regard to “victim shaming” on here. I think a few years ago, more older women did so, but far fewer now, thank goodness.

I often wonder when people suggest that the complainants in these type of cases ie harassment, inappropriate 'banter' etc., are being 'woke' or have no sense of humour if they would think it so harmless if it was their daughter or wife who was on the receiving end. I suspect not

Earlier this year I snapped back at a man for mindlessly making sexist misogynist comments to me. He was genuinely surprised. It simply hadn't occurred to him that his comments were inappropriate. He wasn't a bad man just hadn't (ever) thought that others might not appreciate what he was saying.

Fleurpepper

Don't be silly, don't be so sensitive, it's only banter, etc. And 'what do you expect, wearing a crop top or a short skirt' - you were asking for it, etc, etc.

Don't be silly, don't be so sensitive, it's only banter, etc.

"What's the matter with you - no sense of humour?"
"Miserable cow."

No, you're a sexist misogynist.

Don't be silly, don't be so sensitive, it's only banter, etc. And 'what do you expect, wearing a crop top or a short skirt' - you were asking for it, etc, etc.

So glad women are confident enough to speak up unlike years ago when you kept quiet rather than suffer more embarrassment

When you took your car into the garage for a service, there were always girly calendars on display.

They seemed to be synonymous with greasy overalls and spanners.

I was attempting to point out the length of time it took both women to be aware of something untoward happening to them.

I'm pretty sure they were only too aware of what was happening to them - but as several of us have tried to explain on here, there can be any number of reasons why someone does not report or speak up at the time.

Yes he's definitely guilty. Years ago, I saw the dislike for him in contestants faces and always wondered why. There wsz always something about him which made me think he's a dirty old man.

MissInterpreted

Sarnia

MissInterpreted

Sarnia

I wonder why Kirsty Wark took 14 years to decide she had been sexualised by Gregg Wallace. Reminds me of Only Fools and Horses when Del is telling Rodney that a local lady had gone to the police to complain she had been 'interfered with' a week before. When Rodney asked why it had taken her a week to report it, Del replied she didn't know she had been interfered with until the cheque bounced.

'Sexualised'? That's a funny way to put it...
Also, are you suggesting that these woman are only on the lookout for a cheque\?

Goodness me. Sexualised was a word Kirsty Wark used herself and John Sullivan who Only Fools as a comedy series but of course, that was back in the day when people could have a laugh and not take everything so literally. MissInterpreted suits you very well.

I just said that was a funny way to put it - how is that misinterpreting anything?

You asked if I was suggesting those women are only on the lookout for a cheque. No, I wasn't. I was attempting to point out the length of time it took both women to be aware of something untoward happening to them.

People need to be encouraged to speak out, not met with tight lipped disapproval, or statements of what other people would have done.
That's the last way to assist in bringing these issues to the fore.

Iam64

Yet another gransnet thread where women, the victims, are blamed or criticised for not either telling abusive men where to get off, or not complaining on the day. So few criticisms of the men involved.
Little wonder women keep schtum

There’s plenty of criticism of the men, but how are they supposed to be dealt with if people don’t speak out.
That is one of the problems in the current AoC issue. If you don’t speak out about a problem, it will continue.

Crossstitch Fan and NonGrannyMoll,

I hadn't thought of equating "Upskirting" with looking up a woman's/girl's skirt because I thought that the photography would require much more premeditation and more intrusive behaviour(positioning themselves under escalators/ shoving a camera under a skirt going up steps etc.)I can see however that it is in the same ballpark.Also I had forgotten about short skirts because it has been so long since I wore one.
You make some very good points about women's role in managing the ritual of men and women's "getting together". It has always been a difficult area because it relies on trust and respect for boundaries on both sides.
I presume it is managed differently these days and posibly better.
I also agree that when we were young women , we women in the office gave as good as we got and some of the young men could have complained about us.!

Yet another gransnet thread where women, the victims, are blamed or criticised for not either telling abusive men where to get off, or not complaining on the day. So few criticisms of the men involved.
Little wonder women keep schtum

Not disagreeing with any of the comments but I firmly believe noone should be named prior to an investigation. If found to have committed these offences named and shamed but not until then......This could ruin a person's life and career if allegations are not upheld.