Stephen Graham stars in Netflix 4-parter “Adolescence”

I'm not a Stephen Graham fan. He plays the same character in everything. However, I am "enjoying" Adolescence (2 episodes in). The male cop gets my vote for principal actor in this drama. It's all very believable.

Finished watching last night. Yes social media is part of the story but also the father's attitude. Given his background can understand why. Tge female police officer hit it on the head re the school.

We haven't got Netflix any more but family were talking about this series recently.
Stephen Graham is always worth watching. Perhaps we should take up a free offer and watch this. It is terrifying, the way things are going now and how violence is almost normalised even at primary school age.

henetha

£14 for Netflix? I only pay £5.99.
And I don't agree about the 'dross'.

We just dropped down to the £5.99 subscription as a cost cutting exercise, we thought if the ads drive us mad we will go up to the ad free version again. So far the ads aren’t a problem so we will stick with £5.99 a month.

watched it all yesterday, very powerful, very emotive. The effect it has on the whole family and how they handle it. Good performances all round

A sit up and take notice drama that anyone with a teenager in their family should watch. It didn't show the stereotypical, dysfunctional family from a feral council estate but decent hard-working parents just trying to do their best. It showed, very forcefully, that this could happen to anyone.
My 13 year old GD speaks another language but I had no idea of the sinister messages that emojis can send.
The Tate brothers are a frightening pair of influencers who bring misogyny to another level. At a time when society is trying to make the world a safer place for women, this nasty duo penetrate young boys and men's minds with their sick preaching against women. Worryingly, they have a huge following.
Social media has a great deal to answer for in my opinion but little is done to try to clear the Tate brothers and their kind from the platforms.
A disturbing and worrying watch.

I can vividly remember a doctor asking me if he could look at my chicken pox on my back. That was about 55 years ago. I think that's quite normal thing to do.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Thank you Wyllow.

But as to your second point I think ‘politeness’ is one thing but craving ‘permission’ is another.

An example:
About 3 years ago I took L’il Miss a doctor’s appointment. She was 5 years old. The doctor asked “is it okay if I look in your ears?” Ye gods. What would he have done if she’d said “no”?
Years ago a GP would just have said to a young child “come here please I need to look in your ears”.

I honestly think we’ve swung the pendulum too far across.

Permission for everything these days. Gah.

The attitude of doctors not asking for permission meant I was sexually abused by doctor when I was a child. I didn't even understand what had happened. This was the GP who cared for my mother when she was pregnant with me.

I'm all in favour of the doctor asking your GCs permission before he touched her, maybe that attitude will mean another child won't go through what I did.

kircubbin2000

Who are Shane and Paddy?

I don't know, but Shane Meadows was responsible for This Is England, which launched Stephen Graham as Combo. Maybe that is who was meant by Shane?

It was an excellent film, followed up by three series, which are available on 4OD, and well worth seeing if anyone missed them first time round.

Meadows' style is to let the actors ad lib a lot of the time, and he takes on issues of the day, which is what Adolescence is doing. Whether or not Meadows is the same Shane, I agree that it is in a similar genre to his work.

There is so much violence at the moment. Here a young man was recently murdered because he was suspected of interfering with a child. Only suspected. Police did nothing.
The consensus on local Facebook was
that the uncle did the right thing by killing him and we all would have done the same!

Who are Shane and Paddy?

Our family don’t swear and we wouldn’t allow adults to swear in front of of children. I regularly asked people not swear when out in public when our children were with us, but as my DH served 32+ years as a police officer he was aware that not everyone lived their lives as we do. He used to escort young children home when they were out later than you would expect, therefore bad language and what I would’ve classed as parental neglect aren’t new it’s been going on forever. I will watch this series, no doubt with my tissues to hand.

He is of the Shane & Paddy league. Well known in those circle of actors and musicians for whom ideas started from college and or workshops , learning and developing their creativity there and on the job, ie story tellers, script writers, directors, producers, motivator not forgetting their music etc etc.
I do have some bias having followed their talents for possible for over 35 years!!!!! They have observed the world and want to portray concerns of issues found. Not everyone wants to see these issues but they are there.Stephen Graham recently discussed his rationale for his work in adolescence following 2 incidences of knife crime in opposites ends of the country and his concern turned into research, I believe, of these horrendous crimes and their consequences/ outcomes.
Respect, I mantra, to anybody who takes critical issues by the ‘horns’ to bring attention to the public/media to say (IMHO) STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN life is too short, it isn’t always easy so why make it harder for all, find solutions where you can as the consequences of hitting out are too unbearable for all !!!!!!

This was such a powerful drama and showed how little older generations understand on the emoji language used by teenagers on the internet. The detective had to be told by his son about the meanings of the symbols and how the lad was being bullied. I didn't know about Incel and the influence of Tate on how young men may view girls. The acting of the boy and the female psychologist was brilliant and terrifying.

I pay the same as you henetha! Great value.

£14 for Netflix? I only pay £5.99.
And I don't agree about the 'dross'.

I’m sure I read Treacle that the tech entrepreneurs in Silicone Valley don’t let their own kids use social media. For good reason perhaps?

When we were all at school, any bullying or meanness stopped at the school gates until the next morning. Now? Little in the way of respite. And with WhatsApp/Insta etc cliques can form so easily and be the gateway to aggressive behaviour.

Poor kids. We are sleepwalking into this really but I suppose you can’t put the genie back into the bottle …

I don't see the thread as an ad. Many of us have Netflix - it's not a minority service - so it's reasonable to assume that a lot of us will have seen the programme. We don't hold off discussions of BBC programmes in case not everyone has a TV licence - it's very easy not to click on a thread that doesn't interest you, and this one does have 'Netflix' in the title.

Very powerful message , brilliant acting

Fabulous Drama
It has highlighted why Teachers are leaving the Profession
It has made me fearful for society
I want social media banned until users are 30
It’s so sad that children can leave separate lives without their parents knowing- and the peer group pressure that invades their privacy wherever they go

Apologies keepingquiet.
Not an ad - Just a good drama to share and chat about and it’s also generated a bit of off tangent discussion by a few of us which, to be honest, I enjoy. Like sitting round a table with friends. 😁

Stephen Graham is an excellent actor and always worth watching. Unfortunately I don't have Netflex so will have to miss what sounds like an excellent drama for our times.

I don't have Netflix and won't be buying in just to watch this...the whole thread sounds like an ad.

Thank you Wyllow.

But as to your second point I think ‘politeness’ is one thing but craving ‘permission’ is another.

An example:
About 3 years ago I took L’il Miss a doctor’s appointment. She was 5 years old. The doctor asked “is it okay if I look in your ears?” Ye gods. What would he have done if she’d said “no”?
Years ago a GP would just have said to a young child “come here please I need to look in your ears”.

I honestly think we’ve swung the pendulum too far across.

Permission for everything these days. Gah.

I agree with what himself said to Boy Wonder FGT but in terms of the teacher asking "is it OK to sit here"

I think that first its probably recommended standard procedure and secondly - its an example of being polite.