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11 Minutes. BBC documentary.

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MayBee70 Sun 23-Mar-25 21:05:21

keepingquiet

I watched it quite a while ago. I will never get the US and their attitudes to guns. I remember the human stories from this documentary and they were very touching indeed.

I don't really understand your question though about being swept under the carpet? It is a long time since I saw it though, so maybe the families didn't get the answers they needed? It happens a lot in the US (and here?) when these tragedies occur. Grenfell springs to mind.

I think it was mentioned somewhere in the documentary that it didn’t get the publicity that it should have done and couldn’t understand why both I and my partner didn’t remember it. And, of course, Trump was President at the time. I probably need to watch the last two episodes properly but I’m not sure that I can cope with rewatching it ( I think I nodded off whilst watching episode three).

Maggiemaybe Sun 23-Mar-25 20:20:04

I’ve just checked the date and the documentary was made in 2022, so that must be when we saw it.

Maggiemaybe Sun 23-Mar-25 20:18:09

We watched the documentary too, MayBee - I think we came across it in lockdown. We binge watched it. It’s so compelling, made up as it is of footage filmed by people who were there, and interviews with survivors. I agree 100% with what you say about those brave first responders. Some of their testimony was incredible. The daughter of friends of ours was staying at the Mandalay at the time - fortunately she was out and about elsewhere in the city when the attack happened.

keepingquiet Sun 23-Mar-25 19:08:42

I watched it quite a while ago. I will never get the US and their attitudes to guns. I remember the human stories from this documentary and they were very touching indeed.

I don't really understand your question though about being swept under the carpet? It is a long time since I saw it though, so maybe the families didn't get the answers they needed? It happens a lot in the US (and here?) when these tragedies occur. Grenfell springs to mind.

Jockytaff Sun 23-Mar-25 19:01:49

To MayBee70 - the Americans accept these things because 99% of them are nutcases.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 23-Mar-25 16:08:33

I remember it as we had been to Vegas in 2016 for an extended family wedding.

Cateq Sun 23-Mar-25 15:56:24

The only reason I remember it was we’d just booked a trip to California to visit my aunt and she was talking about taking us to Vegas to revisit the sites we’d been to many years earlier. But following the shooting we decided just to stick to California.

Tuskanini Sun 23-Mar-25 15:09:10

No, I’m reminded of it, I remember it. But no, it doesn’t stand out as particularly unique.

Allira Thu 20-Mar-25 22:56:16

Yes, I remember it.
The news came on the television when we were staying in a hotel but in a different country.

MayBee70 Thu 20-Mar-25 22:38:06

He did shoot himself. Of course, at the time the police didn’t know if more people were shooting or if the place was booby trapped. The hotel where we stayed at was the Tropicana ( now demolished) which was nearby, and it said a lot of the walking wounded went there. Floor 32 of The Mandalay is no longer used.

Mt61 Thu 20-Mar-25 22:30:58

Think it was Mandelay Bay hotel- concert going on nearby- many people shot dead. I can’t remember if he took his own life, or not.,

MayBee70 Thu 20-Mar-25 22:30:04

BlueBelle

I didn’t see the programme but I remember it very clearly it seemed to go very quiet after the initial news items and I did wonder what had happened
Wasn’t he an oldish guy that did the shooting ? I don’t remember hearing any outcome /sentencing /talking to victims family or anything like that after the event

He was 64; a professional gamer he had access to free rooms in some of the Las Vegas hotels. He took the guns into the room in several suitcases. He’d already had a trial run at another hotel when there was a concert there. His father was a bank robber. He’s been googling about how to become ‘ famous’. How can Americans feel that events like this are just inevitable?

valdavi Thu 20-Mar-25 22:17:22

I remember it to, doesn't seem like eight years ago! It must have been like a battlefield.

BlueBelle Thu 20-Mar-25 22:16:35

I didn’t see the programme but I remember it very clearly it seemed to go very quiet after the initial news items and I did wonder what had happened
Wasn’t he an oldish guy that did the shooting ? I don’t remember hearing any outcome /sentencing /talking to victims family or anything like that after the event

Rula Thu 20-Mar-25 22:09:29

Oh I remember it very well. Shocking. Baffling how he'd been able to get so many weapons into the hotel.

Oreo Thu 20-Mar-25 22:05:17

I don’t remember it either, but think we have become so used to US gun massacres that only a few of them stick in the mind.

MayBee70 Thu 20-Mar-25 21:58:00

Just watched all four episodes of a documentary on BBC called 11 Minutes. It’s about the largest mass shooting that has ever happened in America, in Las Vegas in 2017. Not for the faint hearted I must point out but, like a lot of documentaries it draws you in. What I don’t understand is that I don’t remember it happening, and neither does my partner. And yet we’d stayed in that area a few years prior to that, so I would have thought that we would have discussed it at the time. The killer took many guns and rifles into a hotel overlooking a country and western concert and, in 11 minutes had killed 58 people and injured ( badly injured, that is) over 800 more before shooting himself. I do remember discussions about the fact that guns could be converted into automatic weapons with a device that was then ( I assume) banned. What I also don’t understand is that most of the people interviewed that had either been injured or had lost loved ones seemed to think it was a social problem and, although they campaigned to ban the sale of the converter, still thought that guns were necessary to protect people and that this sort of thing would still happen but, if the weapons weren’t automatic, not as many people would be killed. The whole thing is totally beyond my comprehension. What did stand out were the interviews with first responders who ran towards the danger to save people, and that some of them, instead of feeling proud that they’d saved lives, still berated themselves for the lives they didn’t save. I know I would never be that brave. I wonder if the whole thing was rather swept under the carpet at the time?