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“Our” BBC? Really?

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RosieandherMaw Tue 24-Jun-25 06:50:24

You’d better be ready to stay up late, tennis fans, unless you have access to BBCiPlayer.
The BBC’s Today at Wimbledon programme has effectively become “Yesterday at Wimbledon” for television viewers after being moved to a graveyard slot
The traditional highlights programme for each day’s play has ordinarily aired at either 8pm or 9pm on BBC Two.
But the edition of the programme on day one of this summer’s Championships has been scheduled for 11.55pm as part of what Telegraph Sport can reveal is a permanent move to a similar slot.
That is despite the BBC airing shows that include repeats of Your Garden Made Perfect, The Pembrokeshire Coast: A Wild Year, and Upstart Crow in the 8pm-10.30pm time slot next Monday
A BBC spokesperson said that Today at Wimbledon would still be shown at its traditional time on iPlayer, while describing the television broadcast as a “repeat ”.
But many viewers, particularly in remote areas, may not have access to iPlayer or the BBC website, so Today at Wimbledon is the only means by which they can catch up on the day’s play

Is this part of a brave new world future where the only tv is streamed I wonder?

David49 Fri 27-Jun-25 18:03:08

RosieandherMaw

That's your opinion in David and you're entitled to it but I disagree with just about every word!
Sport is going to appear less and less on public service TV as the money the advertisers or sponsors can pay puts it out of reach of eg the BBC.
You only have to look at how the timing of many major sporting fixtures is designed to appeal to the advertisers or how many major events these days are only available at a price on the likes of Sky Sport, or NOW. Rugby World cup/Lions tour, much Test cricket, among others

Sport coverage on BBC concentrates less popular sports Women’s Football, Athletics, Cricket and many others where there is less appeal for sponsors and advertisers.
They also share nationally important events, Wimbledon, is one of those if you don’t like it, tough many do.
I wont be watching BBC1 tonight, nothing of interest to me, happy to watch Glastonbury and UK players in Wimbledon. Wife likes similar programmes but hates left wing news bias on BBC.

Doodledog Fri 27-Jun-25 17:46:54

David49

Most viewers are interested in sport, ( that why it’s screened on BBC1, the other programming on is mostly rubbish, a lot low quality fill screen and repeats. Subscription TV is no better a lot of low quality rubbish, if you want to watch decent content you pay extra.

Words fail me😂

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kittylester Fri 27-Jun-25 16:43:07

Agree completely with your last post, Rosies.

RosieandherMaw Fri 27-Jun-25 12:59:49

That's your opinion in David and you're entitled to it but I disagree with just about every word!
Sport is going to appear less and less on public service TV as the money the advertisers or sponsors can pay puts it out of reach of eg the BBC.
You only have to look at how the timing of many major sporting fixtures is designed to appeal to the advertisers or how many major events these days are only available at a price on the likes of Sky Sport, or NOW. Rugby World cup/Lions tour, much Test cricket, among others

David49 Fri 27-Jun-25 12:19:05

Most viewers are interested in sport, ( that why it’s screened on BBC1, the other programming on is mostly rubbish, a lot low quality fill screen and repeats. Subscription TV is no better a lot of low quality rubbish, if you want to watch decent content you pay extra.

Doodledog Fri 27-Jun-25 10:25:22

That is spectacularly missing the point, which is that we allpay for tv one way or another and not only is a significant part of the budget devoted to sport (which not everyone wants to watch) it hogs the main channels when it is in, and non-sport fans are dismissed with ‘oh, you can choose something else.’

Just as fans don’t want to miss important matches and are happy for licence fees/ad revenues to be spent on their preferences, non-fans might enjoy more Arts programmes, or drama, history or whatever, and we all prefer to watch when things are scheduled.

David49 Fri 27-Jun-25 09:39:12

There is about 100 different channels just choose another one, major sporting events are best on main Chanel’s because you can watch your choice of match with “red button” all for free without ads.

RosieandherMaw Fri 27-Jun-25 09:33:58

DrWatson

For Rosie and Grandma, the tennis is on for HOURS, all through Wimbledon. And a highlights show too, though the end of the live coverage. as someone said, includes some highlights from round the courts.

Just record the live coverage? Then you can whizz through it later, watch a game you like, skip the ones you don't?

I can resist the temptation no longer hmmhmm

No shit Sherlock !

RosieandherMaw Fri 27-Jun-25 05:53:56

DrWatson

For Rosie and Grandma, the tennis is on for HOURS, all through Wimbledon. And a highlights show too, though the end of the live coverage. as someone said, includes some highlights from round the courts.

Just record the live coverage? Then you can whizz through it later, watch a game you like, skip the ones you don't?

Record the live coverage? Whoudathunk of that? And as for “watching a game I like and skipping the ones I don’t?”
Genius!
So much gransplaining [sigh]
But IYRTT you might also have seen
It was also nothing to do with the number of hours of sports coverage, (Tuesday 13.41) but the scheduling of what you call the “highlight show”.
(Whoever Rosie and Grandma are)

DrWatson Fri 27-Jun-25 05:08:30

For Rosie and Grandma, the tennis is on for HOURS, all through Wimbledon. And a highlights show too, though the end of the live coverage. as someone said, includes some highlights from round the courts.

Just record the live coverage? Then you can whizz through it later, watch a game you like, skip the ones you don't?

MayBee70 Fri 27-Jun-25 00:25:29

Radio6 is at Glastonbury for most of the day and night.

Silverbrooks Thu 26-Jun-25 20:42:50

It has become very corporate and the “pay to play” issue is controversial:

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/glastonbury-pay-to-play-loss-making-acts-bookers-backstage-workers-b2774672.html

I think BBC will lose its rights to Glastonbury just as it has for major sporting events (Wimbledon now shared with Warner Bros).

This was reported in the i:

YouTube and Amazon Music are poised to offer multimillion dollar bids to snatch the jewel in the BBC’s music crown, industry sources have claimed.

Concerns that Glastonbury could be restricted to pay-per-view audiences on streaming platforms were raised as the BBC prepares to launch its most extensive coverage yet of the festival, which welcomed the first of 200,000 ticket-holders on Wednesday.

YouTube’s interest forced the BBC to make a substantially higher bid to renew its deal for exclusive broadcast rights to Glastonbury, when the last contract was agreed in 2023 for an undisclosed fee, The i Paper understands.

The Eavis family, which owns the festival, could be tempted by a multi-year bid from a platform which would give Glastonbury a global audience of millions that BBC iPlayer cannot reach.

An auction for the rights involving tech giants could reach $100m (£74.5m), one broadcasting insider claimed, with the BBC’s current multi-year deal believed to end in 2027.

The money could future-proof Glastonbury for the next decade, allowing the organisers to keep pace with rising costs, hold ticket prices at a steady level for fans and commit more funds to charity.

Last year, the BBC trialled livestreaming headline sets from Dua Lipa and Coldplay to international audiences on the BBC website, which shows commercial advertising to users outside of the UK.

The experiment is not being repeated this weekend but could be revisited in the future, the BBC said.

inews.co.uk/news/entertainment/cash-strapped-bbc-fears-losing-glastonbury-tv-rights-streaming-giants-3769401?srsltid=AfmBOoqczp3XYj_W51oX7GG0c2lIn1GqPotNp-O_UGUD_nxIkhw4M5GB

MayBee70 Thu 26-Jun-25 20:26:23

I agree re their news coverage. But when it comes to drama they produce things like Years and Years. The BBC won't suffer as they don't depend on advertising revenue. It's the music fans that will miss out. And the BBC aren't as bad as the ITV morning show from what my partner tells me. Susannah Reid gleefully saying this morning that opinion polls show that Reform will form the next government.

Silverbrooks Thu 26-Jun-25 19:14:11

It’s Young himself. He’s famously anti-establishment and anti-corporation, so it's no surprise that he may have balked at the idea of his set being televised.

It is not explicitly clear if or why Neil Young's headline Glastonbury set will not be shown on Saturday 28th June on BBC iPlayer, but it's likely to have something to do with an incident at the start of the year, where Young decided to both simultaneously announce and pull out of his Glastonbury set after learning of the BBC's involvement.

Taking to his official website Neil Young Archives, the US singer-songwriter wrote: "The Chrome Hearts and I were looking forward to playing Glastonbury, one of my all time favorite outdoor gigs. We were told that BBC was now a partner in Glastonbury and wanted us to do a lot of things in a way we were not interested in.”

The 79-year-old musician added: "It seems Glastonbury is now under corporate control and is not the way I remember it being. Thanks for coming to see us the last time!"

(Source RadioX)

The BBC makes no secret of its increasing right-wing bias including platforming of Reform so I can understand why he would take this stance.

MayBee70 Thu 26-Jun-25 18:49:48

What's happened about the BBC coverage of Neil Young at Glastonbury [which I was really looking forward to]? Is it down to Neil Young or the BBC? Either way the only people who will suffer are music fans like me who can no longer go to see live bands.

Silverbrooks Wed 25-Jun-25 21:55:32

In looking through the news coverage about the TV scheduling change, I did find this in the The Mirror:

The BBC have defended their decision and stated that matches often go on until the evening and they wouldn't want their live coverage (which goes on until 10:00pm) to clash with their own highlights show. They also added that the Today at Wimbledon show is "currently set for 8pm from Tuesday 8th to Friday 11th July, when earlier finishes are expected.

In other words, the shift is only for the first week or so of the tournament when there are a lot of early round matches to get through.

MayBee70 Wed 25-Jun-25 21:40:09

Dottydots

I don't know why, but I have lost interest in sport over the last few years. At one time I was glued to the box watching football and tennis in particular. I used to get so excited shouting out various comments but now, and I don't know why, I'm not the least interested in the matches.

I still like watching tennis but have totally lost interest in football. The England team play so boringly and other games don’t inspire.I think it’s bad for any sport when it’s no longer on terrestrial tv.

Anniebach Wed 25-Jun-25 21:09:09

Castle was no 1 seed GB but never reached a final , agree he wasn’t a good player

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Jun-25 21:06:24

tattygran14

As a cricket fan, and a permanent deserter from Wimbledon’s grunting, I look back to the happy days when I’d grab my protesting children after school, and race home to I could watch the test match on tv, sound off, and the wonderful radio commentary from Jonners, Richie Benaud, etc.

🥰
Happy days!

TiggyW Wed 25-Jun-25 21:06:12

I can’t stand tennis, or cricket, or football, but I can forgive Wimbledon as it only lasts a fortnight. As for the other two,
plus Formula One, my other half watches them all year round from somewhere in the world!
The only sports I like to watch are ice hockey, because it’s so fast, and cycling tours (more for the scenery than the racing!). They’re only to be found on the more obscure channels. It’s a pity that the BBC can’t offer a separate dedicated sports channel, maybe including some of the less mainstream action.

JPB123 Wed 25-Jun-25 20:33:42

Andrew Castle is awful! He was a third rate tennis player but speaks as if he’s as expert! Just my humble opinion.Sorry.

Snowbelle Wed 25-Jun-25 20:27:02

I don’t follow sport but for my whole life I have accepted that there are times when it’s a big football contest cricket season Wimbledon olympics etc and it disrupts usual timings. I don’t really follow sport but it’s traditional in my world and nice to have seasonal events that people follow and enjoy. Streamed or not I like it the way it was and I’m sorry about the disruption but somehow I like it too it makes a change.

Mt61 Wed 25-Jun-25 19:18:37

Nope it sure isn’t Oreo. Got rid of our license, much happier for it.

Dottydots Wed 25-Jun-25 18:50:44

I don't know why, but I have lost interest in sport over the last few years. At one time I was glued to the box watching football and tennis in particular. I used to get so excited shouting out various comments but now, and I don't know why, I'm not the least interested in the matches.

Jaxjacky Wed 25-Jun-25 15:57:37

Happy to watch the Tennis finals, not bothered beforehand, avidly watch football, some cricket and MrJ the golf.
But there are other programmes if we’re not out or reading, so for a couple of weeks I don’t mind.