Jay Blades

merlotgran

I’ve never taken to him. Far too familiar and touchy feely. Just another male TV presenter with an overblown ego who likes us to think he’s ever so ‘umble.

Spot on. I never liked in either. l always thought he slippery, slimy and a bit of a creep to be honest.

Really fancied himself and came across as being really false.

Good riddance to bad rubbish

I never liked Jay Blades as he was fronting the Repair Shop with his leather apron but didn’t do any of the work! He always had to be there for the reveal which really annoyed me as the talented people who did the wonderful work weren’t seen. I was very glad when he went. I don’t know about his guilt or innocence on the charges but I couldn’t have had the audacity to meet and greet as if you were the talent. I always wondered if there was some chunnering from the others behind the scenes!

You missed the other very important thing NotSpaghetti

‘The test we apply in deciding whether to charge a suspect is different from that applied by the criminal courts. A jury, judge or magistrate may only convict if they are sure that the defendant is guilty.’

That I think is where the difference between our views is.

Thanks Casdon

For those who don't open links - this, I think, is key - they ask:

Does the evidence provide a realistic prospect of conviction? That means, having heard the evidence, is a court more likely than not to find the defendant guilty?
And;
Is it in the public interest to prosecute? That means asking questions including how serious the offence is, the harm caused to the victim, the impact on communities and whether prosecution is a proportionate response.

I think it’s time to remind people of what the CPS actually does.
www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-says-role-cps-deciding-whether-charge-individual-criminal-offence

Everyone needs to be proven guilty whether a celebrity or not.
Obviously.

I agree Not Spaghetti, the C P S, do not bring charges of rape lightly, I think once charged, then it ok to release names, as you rightly pointed out, it does give other victims the courage to come forward.

Anniebach

Quote Bridie22 Wed 06-Aug-25 08:47:30
Then Annie, we will have to surfice with the courts judgement won't we ?

As Timothy Evans and his family did

And the Post Office workers....

Quote NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Aug-25 00:33:40
Bridie22
Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!
Yes me.
I think naming once charged is correct.

It can, as I said above, give other victims the courage to come forward.

Do not give the accused privileges please!

You don’t believe in “innocent until proven guilty” ?

Smileless2012

The BBC does seem to be very unfortunate with its choice of male presenters doesn't it.

It still is a lovely programme JaneJudge.

I think these 'questionable' guys get a taste of TV fame and they imagine it's a licence to exert some kind of God-like power. The BBC (or whichever) are so obsessed with chasing ratings that if a show gets to be popular enough they seem to turn a blind eye to unsavoury rumours of all flavours and cossett their "stars"........until they fall from grace.

Bridie22

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

Yes me.
I think naming once charged is correct.

It can, as I said above, give other victims the courage to come forward.

Do not give the accused privileges please!

Allira

Smileless2012

I'm not comfortable with the name of the accused being released once charges have been made just because they're celebrities.

It happens, the name of the person charged can be released but the alleged victim is given anonymity.

If that person is proven innocent, there will always be a shadow hanging over them, particularly someone famous.

Innocent until proven guilty.
I give you Kevin Spacey cleared on 9 out of 9 sexual assault etc charges in the UK.Several men over a period of about 10 years.
It was suggested that his accusers were trying it on , rebranding, a long time after the fact, concensual encounters as non-concensual , trying to get their lazy sticky little hands into the "Metoo" Compensation Till.
KS equally found Not Liable in a USA Civil Court on similiar charges and his accuser had to pay costs.
His career has been ruined it seems.
I know nothing about Blades but he should not be pre-judged.

Innocent until proven guilty.

I often wondered about that l leg painted a different colour.!
A real0ity as there are so many talented people in this England of ours. I hope he is not found guilty because I am sure he is a nice man. He should find a proper job to suit his talents.

Smileless2012

My defence of the poor man has nothing to do with what he's been charged with but the fact that the charges have been made public knowledge.

Agreed 👍🏻

Understood Smileless 👍

My defence of the poor man has nothing to do with what he's been charged with but the fact that the charges have been made public knowledge.

I understand that miscarriages of justice do happen, its, the thread seemed to veer immediately to the defence of the poor man, not the poor woman bringing the charges, it got my feminist hackles up 🥴

We don't know if anyone has been raped Bridie and wont until the case goes to trial; that's the point.

Bridie22

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

You’re not listening to what people are saying Bridie22. We are all on the side of anybody who has been raped, we all want to see rightful convictions. That does not mean we want to see innocent people having their lives ruined if they are wrongfully accused of rape.

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

Bukkie

Eddiecat - Poor John Leslie had his life and career ruined by the odious Matthew Wright naming him wrongly as Ulrika Johnson's attacker. Despite her saying it wasn't John Leslie his reputation has never recovered. I cannot understand why Matthew Wright was ever allowed to broadcast again.

I didn’t know that. It just goes to show how a wrong accusation sticks. There was a young lad in my village who was wrongly accused of some kind of sexual harrasment and he, too couldn’t move on from it.

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Eddiecat - Poor John Leslie had his life and career ruined by the odious Matthew Wright naming him wrongly as Ulrika Johnson's attacker. Despite her saying it wasn't John Leslie his reputation has never recovered. I cannot understand why Matthew Wright was ever allowed to broadcast again.

The other people on the show are all qualified, skilled and experienced heritage crafts people who run their own restoration businesses. I think the brother and the sister run a business together. Jay Blades is the co chair of the Heritage Crafts Association.