What is the Monarchy For?

You’re just side stepping again. Avoiding the issue. This is why I can’t take you seriously.

I don’t have to question the Monarchy. I know what happens there.

Okay you are talking about a president in it to make money. How would we stop that.

So let's start with the monarchy could we, they have just had a funding increase of £45 million, what other public body got that. Charles lobbied to get more money so instead of the civil list it became the Sovereign Grant which George Osborne increased massively and unnecessary.

And money from the Duchies.

The Presidents you are thinking of are American or French etc, who have more power. Our President would have a defined constitutional role and not much power.

You could question the monarchy.

Samwam

Do you think the newly elected president of Ireland Catherine Connolly is acquiring wealth, a very talented, admired, intelegent hard working woman for her country, just like a few other presidents the first woman president I think from Iceland, Germany, etc. Do you really think they are in it to make money or to do good representing their country. That's all. I'll leave that for you to ponder.

Honestly I don’t know anything about her.

I do know about numerous elected President that have done that in the past and are doing that right now though.

But naming one person you think is worthy doesn’t address the issue of the evidence that this happens and how it would be prevented.

This sidestepping and refusing to address the problems of a Republican system is what frustrates me and makes me believe we are better to stick with the status quo until ideology takes second place to realisism.

I distrust ideologies that refuse to do that. I’m open to persuasion but not to the enraged emotionalism and head in the sand that Republicans currently display.

Anniebach

Michel Higgins supported by Labour Party won 2011, again 2018 as independent president Ireland

Many people around the world might ask Who?

Catherine Connelly was elected November 2025
And again Who?

Michel Higgins supported by Labour Party won 2011, again 2018 as independent president Ireland

Wyllow3

*Oh and I think that it is wrong to have the King or Queen as the head of the C of E - felt that for a long time*

I do think Church and State should be disestablished but it is up to England to decide that, not the UK as a whole.

Catherine Connelly was elected November 2025,

Ireland amongst others is a parliamentary/constiuional republic similar to what we would have.

Oh and I think that it is wrong to have the King or Queen as the head of the C of E - felt that for a long time

After being raised a strong republican, I appreciate the diplomatic role they play atm.

I'd keep them but they should show an example by giving away much, much more of their family riches - for good. but I feel like that for any of the super rich, its utterly gross in a society with so many in need.

Only money given to key working Royals.

Presidents can be very good or very bad or in-between, just as Kings and Queens can.

Edward VIII supported Hitler. He was eased out of power but should never have been allowed to have it for one moment.

So I say: it depends on the person.

Why change what we have now for the sake of it?

If it becomes necessary, Parliament does ultimately have the power to change it.

Samwam

Do you think the newly elected president of Ireland Catherine Connolly is acquiring wealth, a very talented, admired, intelegent hard working woman for her country, just like a few other presidents the first woman president I think from Iceland, Germany, etc. Do you really think they are in it to make money or to do good representing their country. That's all. I'll leave that for you to ponder.

Why is Ireland often brought up as an example? 😁
I do not understand.

Caleo

Allira

Meeting other Heads of State and to make speeches on important matters of the day.

Now, if you had your way and we became a Republic with an elected President, the way things are going in this country, it could be Farage as President.

How would you feel about that Samwam?

Imagine, Farage, Trump, Putin together. 🤔

Yes, but is it really such a stark choice? I used to think as you do. .

It would be the people's choice, Caleo.

I used to think Blair and his wife had Presidential aspirations but many people think Farage is the answer to the country's problems.

Do you think the newly elected president of Ireland Catherine Connolly is acquiring wealth, a very talented, admired, intelegent hard working woman for her country, just like a few other presidents the first woman president I think from Iceland, Germany, etc. Do you really think they are in it to make money or to do good representing their country. That's all. I'll leave that for you to ponder.

The rich aristocratic class should not exist unless they exist to help others less fortunate.

Who do you mean by aristocratic class please?
The Royal family is not the aristocracy.

Andrew Windsor is neither now.

Allira

^Meeting other Heads of State and to make speeches on important matters of the day.^

Now, if you had your way and we became a Republic with an elected President, the way things are going in this country, it could be Farage as President.

How would you feel about that Samwam?

Imagine, Farage, Trump, Putin together. 🤔

Yes, but is it really such a stark choice? I used to think as you do. .

Andrew should have gone into Epstein's den as a gentleman who looks to help others, not as a fellow predator.

Meeting other Heads of State and to make speeches on important matters of the day.

Now, if you had your way and we became a Republic with an elected President, the way things are going in this country, it could be Farage as President.

How would you feel about that Samwam?

Imagine, Farage, Trump, Putin together. 🤔

Barbadosbelle

Paddyann54

Andrew was never charged with any illegal wrongdoing and never will be. He's a pompous silly unlikeable man but having sex with a 17-year old in London isn't a crime here.

The photograph doesn't show her being afraid or traumatised - and in fact it was taken with her camera and at her request as she said that her 'Mom would be so thrilled to see her with a real English Prince'. All her words from her book that was published after her tragic death.
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A mature man should care for the welfare of a young girl, especially when she us silly about English aristocrats and has an equally sully mother.

The rich aristocratic class should not exist unless they exist to help others less fortunate.

Well a fly🙄

Well, exactly.😬

Samwam

Lathyrus3

You are describing what the monarchy is it's a corrupt institution with power King's Consent, lobbying no accountability, power and private gain.

An elected president would have a defined role upholding the laws of our 'newly written' constitution. Meeting other Heads of State and to make speeches on important matters of the day. And given a salary for this important job. It would be a parliamentary/constiuional republic.

The only ones acquiring personal wealth and influence are Charles and William. Charles is a billionaire how did he aquire that.

Still if people are monarchist no point in arguing about it.

Well a fly. That’s my point. You’d just be exchanging one thing fir more of the same.

It’s very naive to think that the elected Presidents of other countries and their families and cronies aren’t acquiring wealth that rivals and indeed, overtakes, the wealth of any of the Royals.

I haven’t yet seen any argument for a Republic that addresses this.

Oh no, I'm quite sure he would not!!

Mind you, that would suit Republic very well were that a prospect 😁

Anyway, even he might have the nous to abdicate were it a possibility.

Just want to say.
'Andrew Windsor is not the Monarch and never will be'
He is 8th in line to throne parliament hasn't changed it. If anything happened to the family he would become king.

Still if people are monarchist no point in arguing about it

We listen to the arguments of course but are able to refute them in favour of the status quo because the alternative would seem to be worse.
I thought the subject of discussion was the Monarchy, not the extended family.

Andrew Windsor is not the Monarch and never will be.

Lathyrus3

You are describing what the monarchy is it's a corrupt institution with power King's Consent, lobbying no accountability, power and private gain.

An elected president would have a defined role upholding the laws of our 'newly written' constitution. Meeting other Heads of State and to make speeches on important matters of the day. And given a salary for this important job. It would be a parliamentary/constiuional republic.

The only ones acquiring personal wealth and influence are Charles and William. Charles is a billionaire how did he aquire that.

Still if people are monarchist no point in arguing about it.

Who would they get instead, do you know?

I presume an elected Head of State.

Many Australians do not have British ancestry, indeed in some areas the numbers are extremely low.