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Work in your late 50’s

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lizkaz1 Tue 29-Jan-19 15:58:12

I am one of those people who will have to work until I am 66. In theory I don’t mind, but I really do not like m job. Change it I hear everyone say, but I’m finding that it’s really not that easy. People just do not want to employ you, my partner is over 60 and in the same boat. I’m a teacher, I like the school, my colleagues are great but I am sick to death of the stress and workload. I came into teaching late so my pension wouldn’t be great if I retired early. I’m like everyone else and have financial commitments. There are so many other jobs I could do, but it’s as if once they see your age on your application form they do not even look at you. My partner who is really trying hard to change his job right now is finding the same. I am finding that as I fast approach my 60th I am becoming invisible within society, no one wants to employ you and no one is interested in your opinion anymore. I find I am wishing my life away trying to hang on until I can retire. I am fit for my age, I have made the effort to stay fit. Watch my diet, go to the gym 4 times a week and make an effort to look nice. I really hate that I am being made to feel as though I’m on the scrap heap.

Esmerelda Wed 30-Jan-19 12:34:27

There is some very useful and brilliant advice on here from others ... I feel sure that you will find a way to benefit from their wisdom and experience. Good luck!

Matriarch Wed 30-Jan-19 12:15:49

I was a teacher until I was in a redundancy situation and had no option but to leave as my job was cut . I was nearly 57 . It was a great shock to discover that despite working for 22 years only 11 counted towards the teachers pension . Part time years didn’t count I was told . So , after doing some private tuition and agency work I decided to retrain and be self employed. I have taken my pension to help me get by . I am also looking into claiming maladministration for the missing years .

Gelisajams Wed 30-Jan-19 11:55:15

Have you actually checked with Teachers Pensions exactly how much you you would get if you were to retire and claim your pension immediately? At just 55 the lump sum which we weren’t expecting and our joint Teachers pension was enough to keep the wolf from the door. (I only had 13 years in!) DH got a casual job with a local undertaker for extras and I did a bit of private tuition and became a volunteer for the ambulance service as I needed to be active. I have just applied to work a couple of days a week in a cafe until we get our state pension at 66.

Telly Wed 30-Jan-19 11:44:43

Well you wont know unless you try. Perhaps you could take early retirement and supplement your pension with a part-time job? Or reduce your current hours? Tutoring has been mentioned which would seem reasonable. There are lots of jobs that you could do, or you could try downsizing and reduce your expenses in return for a better work/life balance.

paperbackbutterfly Wed 30-Jan-19 11:23:28

After having a 'sensible' job in education for 23 years. I decided, at 60, enough was enough so I've taken my pension and got a wonderful job, 2 days a week, as a Victorian shopkeeper at a living museum. I applied for 12 jobs in various organizations and got 6 interviews. I was accepted at my 3rd interview. No matter what your age, you should try for something else if you dislike your job. Life is too short to be unhappy xx

BRedhead59 Wed 30-Jan-19 11:13:43

Hang in there. I had several periods when I nearly jacked it in and now realise that it's a good job I didn't and I enjoyed most of the work. You could go part-time? Change schools? It looks as if DFE and OFSTED are calming down a bit and trying to retain teachers and reduce workload/data drops etc
incentives rather than constant stick! All jobs have their stress and boring bits you will know that from your previous life.

Harris27 Wed 30-Jan-19 11:02:54

I am in the same boat as you work in childcare in low paid job but have no other choice.my health is suffering just turned 59 and arthritis kicking in have asthma quite bad especially in winter. However I would probably go mad if I didn't go to work I'm trying to find a balance till 66?

Crispy64 Wed 30-Jan-19 10:51:22

In Aus the family home doesn’t count in the assets test

optimist Wed 30-Jan-19 10:46:09

I was also a late employed full time teacher in a state school. When I was 66 I applied for a job as a lecturer in an FE college working with classroom assistants/early years workers. Irregular hours but plenty of them, I managed my own diary and put in a payclaim at the end of each month, most of my students were mature and keen to learn.Money not quite as good but I was contributing to my pension. I loved the flexibility and retired at 72. I am now 75.

Nannytopsy Wed 30-Jan-19 10:29:52

I was a deputy head and SENCo and by the time I left, hated going to work everyday. I know you cannot cut down and do only what is required or management will be all over you, making things even worse.
I escaped into the private sector, where my experience was more important than age. As DH still works, I took early retirement and I still do some supply.
I do hope you can find something that works for you.

EllenT Wed 30-Jan-19 10:26:56

Just to support what others have said. DH and I are/were both in the teaching profession, and dealt with the strain in our later working years by changing to part-time contracts. Pension still accumulates, albeit at a slower rate and you may find you are able to carry on for longer this way. Just be careful you aren't landed with full time responsibilities for part-time pay!

soldiersailor Wed 30-Jan-19 10:24:25

At 57 I saw an advert in the Evening Standard for work as an immigration officer. I phoned and said 'I suppose I'm too old?' 'No, just send in the application and we'll consider it' came the reply. Quite a few months later that was my job and 20 months further on I was promoted. Two years further on I was working in Paris, then after I retired three years later I was asked to do additional work abroad as a manager in visa sections in a number of UK embassies.
So DON'T rule out the civil Service, it changed my life and I'm certain with your background in teaching they would consider you!

NotStressedOut Wed 30-Jan-19 10:15:01

You don’t have to put your age on your CV. Let employers read it then they will only know roughly how old you are when you have an interview. Employers read the CV’s first and only offer interviews based on that and your experience. Good luck in your careers.

Humbertbear Wed 30-Jan-19 09:10:34

Lizkazi - have you thought of building up a tutoring business . You could do this from home and build it up while still teaching, cutting down your hours as you build up pupils. You have my sympathy. I escaped school to work in higher education. Have you tried looking at jobs in your local FE/HE provider? You have to work to 66 to get your state pension but can’t you get your teaching pension earlier and do something else to supplement it? By the time I left school teaching I was ready to work as a cashier in Tesco.

FountainPen Tue 29-Jan-19 22:50:00

You say in your opening post There are so many other jobs I could do. Could you tell us a little more about what you would like to do.

Anja Tue 29-Jan-19 20:54:50

Have you considered applying to LA to be put on their books for Home Tuition. This is not the same as private tuition.

Tangerine Tue 29-Jan-19 20:47:18

Can you go part-time?

What about tutoring and investigating paying into a private pension? My friend, who is over 60, retired from teaching and did this. It seems to work for her.

I wish you well.

Bigred18 Tue 29-Jan-19 20:42:19

In Oz your home is not included in assets test but assets over $570,000 for a single person and you get nothing. Im just over limit and the only thing I get is cheap prescriptions, and this after paying tax here for 35 years. The British are lucky.

Jalima1108 Tue 29-Jan-19 19:34:39

Spare a thought for the Aussies------it's 67 for a woman at the moment and age increases every two years so by the time it comes for my D to retire, the age will be 70 !
Also, after a couple's retirement, if their assets, including their home is in excess of £400,000 odd,give or take, they don't get a pension !!

Yes, that is right. Is it $A400,000 or £? EllanVannin?

When DH wanted another job in his 60s he just didn't put his dob on the CV - trusting that, if they interviewed him, they would look at his experience etc and disregard his age. It seemed to work and, after changing jobs he was headhunted again aged 65.

I don't know if that would work now.

Anja Tue 29-Jan-19 18:49:48

I understand the stresses of teaching, but at least you have a pensionable job at the moment. Hold onto that while you look around and see what else is out there.

In the meantime future proof your life as much as posdible. Pay off your mortgage as soon as you can. Save like mad. Make yourself live as frugally as possible. Contact your pension providers (state and teachers and others) and find out what you can expect at whatever age.

This will let you see what you need to live on. What you don’t want is to retire in a few years time and struggle.

Re the stress and workload there are ways to minimise these. Do what needs to be done so you are teaching effectively and no more. This is not a vacation any more as this government has given up the right to expect public service workers to work themselves into a nervous breakdown.

TwiceAsNice Tue 29-Jan-19 18:32:09

I retired from a very stressful job in NHS mental health in 2016 at 62. I took my pension a year early as I couldn’t stand working there any longer. Like you loved my clinical work and colleagues couldn’t stand the ever increasing pressure and targets from managers.

I moved nearer my family had a planned 6 months off and applied for and got a part time job in counselling down here, did that for 18 months left because job changed and now work part time in another counselling job nearer to where I live and am very happy. I took a 10% cut in pension leaving early which when I worked out the difference was not worth staying for. A year later I also got my state pension so live alone with an accumulation of pensions and salary. I wasn’t penalised in either job regarding my age and and got the second one at 64. If you are well qualified keep trying I wish you luck

Menopaws Tue 29-Jan-19 18:13:03

I've been told the site Indeed is really good, I have no need to try it but my friend who did found it really helpful

Vonners Tue 29-Jan-19 18:09:24

I decided to make a decent work/life balance as my partner retired at 65, he is now 67. I have another 6 years to work until I'm 66.
I felt it was crazy me working until he would be 73 - who knows what may happen to either of us?
I applied for and got a summer job and in fact started it on my last employed day at previous job as I was using up my leave at the end of my notice.
I then applied for another temporary 9 month job which I got and then a temporary 12 month job which I also got.
I spent hours and hours online reading CV's, how to succeed at interview etc etc. I wrote and rewrote my application ensuring my strengths matched what was needed. I'm sure I would not have been employed if I hadn't put in the work.
I don't think interviewers are allowed to know candidates age. I know my latest manager didn't know my age until we were all discussing it one day.
Give it some thought lizkaz1, TA/tutor as mentioned by others sounds as though it could be a way forward.
I'm probably in the minority (and stupid) but have decided enjoying life now is more important than worrying about future pension.

notanan2 Tue 29-Jan-19 17:22:27

I also know a nurse who became a HCA in her 50s. She works on the same ward & is still in the same pension scheme. She loves it, all the perks of her old job without the stress. And being less stressed means she is more likely to do bits n pieces of overtime so she says that had brought her income up to a similar level as before!

DoraMarr Tue 29-Jan-19 17:20:00

Could you work part time in your school, or do a job share? I was a deputy head, but dropped from 5to 4days, then 3, then 2 1/2 over five years. I retired at 66. Granted, this reduced my pension, but I found I had a much better life working part- time ( I also gave up deputy responsibilities, and some other management responsibilities.)