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EllanVannin Mon 28-Oct-19 11:20:00

This man doesn't sound so well himself and needs to see a GP about his obnoxious outbursts. I appreciate he'll be grieving and he can only show it through his anger which is exacerbated by his drinking. He's to be pitied really although that won't come easy.
We can all live in the past at times when things were so much different, but this is now the future so he'll have to accept it. His non-acceptance will only get worse if he isn't treated in some way and perhaps tested for early onset of dementia.

His drinking won't help either but that's obviously his way of dealing with present day living which certainly isn't helping anyone least of all himself.

If he's going to be with you at Christmas, serve non-alcoholic drinks but don't let on.

WorriedDIL Mon 28-Oct-19 11:12:37

Thank you so much. DS is 8 so this may be one of the last Christmases that we have Santa too.

annsixty Mon 28-Oct-19 11:11:59

Just "unask" him.
I speak from bitter experience, we had my mother ruin every Christmas from my early years until she was 95 years old and she was not as bad as your FiL.
Don't feel guilty either, he has brought it on himself.
If you must have him just make it very, very clear, any comments to ,or about, your son will not be tolerated or he will have to leave

Daisymae Mon 28-Oct-19 10:58:22

I am amazed that you need to ask. No, you are not being unreasonable. In fact I can't believe that you asked him in the first place. The only thing is certain is that if you go ahead you will all have a miserable time. I think the magical family Christmas we have in our head is, for many, just that.

Jane10 Mon 28-Oct-19 10:57:23

He's just not listening though. The good thing about written info is that its there all the time. It doesn't change, doesn't depend on tone of voice and can't be interrupted!
If he wakes up in the middle of the night, sober, he can read it then etc.
I hope he comes round eventually. I think there is specific info available for grandparents.

DanniRae Mon 28-Oct-19 10:54:25

I would definitely not have at my house for Christmas. If he comes NO ONE will have a good time - if he stays at home only he will not have a good time. He sounds just awful - don't let him spoil Christmas for you!!

knickas63 Mon 28-Oct-19 10:53:44

I am not sure how old your DS is - but you could maybe have a talk wiht him first? Explain how out of touch his granfather is and that he is not to take anything he say seriously, that you have his back and understand him. Then get DH to talk to his father, and make it clear, that if he comes for Christmas he is to completely back off of your DS.
If however - you think any of this is unlikely, then for your DS sake - you may have to withdraw the offer. I hope you can sort it.

WorriedDIL Mon 28-Oct-19 10:46:01

If you e got this far, thanks for reading

Jane10 Mon 28-Oct-19 10:45:50

I'm amazed that you continue to return his calls. I suggest that you provide him with simple information sheets on ASD and, maybe a list of ways that this affects your lives and just leave him to process that. Let him stew!
Your poor DH. Its all such a difficult time for him and for you too. Good luck with it all.

WorriedDIL Mon 28-Oct-19 10:40:18

I’ve posted before about my FIL and why it is usually me who has to deal with him rather than my DH, his son.
He has become increasingly insufferable as time passes since MIL passed away. It’s becoming more apparent just how much she covered for him.
He is extremely opinionated and never misses an opportunity to put all & any if us in our place. However with his alcoholism and associated memory loss his pearls of wisdom are becoming more personal and ludicrous.
This has escalated recently as we have had one of our children diagnosed with ASD. It’s been a long hard process with us as parents having to deal with some difficult issues.
We tend not to tell him anything about our lives anymore due to his critical comments. We do however have to listen to his health and emotional issues as in his head he is the only person grieving and the most important person.
However, he is spending Christmas with us this year, we invited him.. I thought it would be better if he knew about DS issues and could hopefully be a bit kinder, have more patience and be understanding. He lives quite a distance away so needs to stay.
This has backfired immensely. He was so rude and dismissive of the diagnosis. He had been drinking though so his opinion was amplified. He said in his experience (ie none at all) these new fangled conditions are just made up and children would have just had a clip around the ear 20 years ago. I was so upset that I hung up on him. He called back a few times. I couldn’t speak to him so left it a few hours. I then calmed down and called him back hoping that he would apologise. He at first denied the previous conversation happened. He obviously had a nap between calls and sobered up a bit. He then doubled down on his opinions. When I told him that he was being insufferably rude he said he didn’t mean to but that I wasn’t listening to him.
I ended the call again. Upset, again.
My DH called him the next day. He said he didn’t mean to upset me but that I wouldn’t listen to him. He then reiterated all of his points to DH. When DH said it didn’t matter what he thought and what his experience was, this was ours. He still banged on about these new conditions which were ridiculous and over diagnosed just to make consultants more money. He just doesn’t get it. He can have an opinion we just don’t need to hear it. He’s so hard on DS when he visits. I now fear that he will be worse. We’re all trying to deal with a diagnosis, including DS that is life changing really.
I now don’t want to invite him for Christmas, which is my AIBU. DH has lost his mum, this is his only remaining parent. Without visiting us he will gave a very lonely Christmas. DH will be upset by this, but I now think FIL deserves it. He has alienated most people over the two years since MIL passed away.