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Cannabis oil as a treatment

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silversurf Sat 16-Jun-18 17:12:01

Thank heavens Savid Javid has intervened and returned the oil to the desperate mother of this very sick child. At least someone in this country has some common sense.
As for the neurologists who were asked for help one is too busy and one didn’t even bother to reply. Shame on you.
The rules on medicinal cannabis oil should be urgently reviewed. It can help so many illnesses
Sorry I can’t do a link to the original story.

NfkDumpling Sat 16-Jun-18 18:22:29

Agree! (We need a ‘Like’ button). It seemed so utterly stupid to deny the child something which works. For Pete’s sake why can’t the powers that be ever use common sense.

maryeliza54 Sat 16-Jun-18 18:27:25

This has been going on for quite a while with no government intervention - then child is hospitalised and it looks serious. What SJ did wasn’t common sense it was political expediency in case the child died.

varian Sat 16-Jun-18 18:30:01

It was both common sense and political expediency and just perhaps an ounce of compassion.

It is utter nonsense that the Home Office has any part to play in what was a life or death medical decision, but at least this Home Secretary has done the right thing.

maryeliza54 Sat 16-Jun-18 18:53:30

It was 6 days ago that she met with HO minister Nick Hurd. But not until the boy is in hospital and apparently in grave danger is the oil returned. The HO have known about this for ages. Political expediency - full stop. I’m also sure that the HO were spoken to about the seizure of the medicine last week before it happened as the mother had said in advance that she was going to bring the oil in.

Luckygirl Sat 16-Jun-18 19:16:39

I've just been looking up the possible therapeutic role of cannabis oil in PD and it seems the jury is still out. Might be worth a try though? WE have got to a point where I feel we would have little to lose.

Luckygirl Sat 16-Jun-18 19:17:47

Happy for this little boy though.

NfkDumpling Sat 16-Jun-18 21:15:46

Very happy for the little boy. I saw a programme a while back about the benefits of medical cannabis and it doesn’t work for everyone. But neither do a lot of things. It seems worth a try if there’s nothing to loose.

annep Sat 16-Jun-18 22:59:21

I'm so glad to hear this. Although I have tried cannabis oil and it was horrible. One dose and I gave it to my friend who finds it useful.

silverlining48 Sun 17-Jun-18 08:33:05

A close family member who lives abroad used it while having large doses of chemo and it helped her.

Blondiescot Tue 19-Jun-18 13:03:14

My friend has a little boy with severe epilepsy and she is campaigning for it to be legalised, as it has helped many children in the same boat. Epilepsy drugs often don't work all that well for these children, and anything which can improve their quality of life - and that of their families - has to be worth a chance. I wonder how the politicians would feel if it were their child?

petra Tue 19-Jun-18 13:14:11

Luckygirl
Have you seen the YouTube videos Re Parkinson's disease and the benefits of cannabis?
As you say what have we got to loose
Someone on breakfast this morning said something so true
the minute someone mentions the word cannabis, people go into panic mode

HildaW Tue 19-Jun-18 13:17:03

Perhaps I'm being simplistic but surely its not the drug/chemical itself that needs the legislation its what we do with it. We have used drugs derived from opium for years to huge benefit - but its rightly illegal for all forms of 'recreation'. Thus logically if there is ample medical evidence to prove cannabis is efficacious under medical supervision....what's the problem? Many drugs can be misused by anyone crafty enough to get hold of them it just seems hugely illogical to ban something that can be so helpful.

Luckygirl Tue 19-Jun-18 13:38:34

Exactly Hilda - I was just thinking this morning that heroin is used as a legitimate drug, and the law accommodates this - why not the same with cannabis? There was a chap from a pharmaceutical company on radio this morning, saying that his company has been developing these drugs for several years and that they are available to children with intractable epilepsy with the proper medical referral - but I am guessing they might be very expensive.

yggdrasil Tue 19-Jun-18 16:41:28

www.idmu.co.uk/historical.htm

mcem Tue 19-Jun-18 17:10:29

I'm also aware that my daughter might benefit. With her chronic problems including fibromyalgia there's a limit to the drugs that are available and at times she has to rely on opiates. I'd like to see her have the chance to see if this will help.

BlueBelle Tue 19-Jun-18 17:14:47

I agree that it is necessary to reform the law for its use for medication although I ve read that it’s not always the miracle it s made out to be The mother in question said today that it doesn’t stop all the fits but lessens them
The cannabis oil sold in H and B is weak in comparison
They only have a months worth for this little lad and apparently is incredible expensive
There seems to be a lot of financial politics as Teresa Mays husbands company is involved in its sale overseas and other government officials involved financially (forgotten who without looking it up)

GillT57 Tue 19-Jun-18 17:51:54

It does seem odd that there is such hysteria about Cannabis oil. My Father had a huge bottle of methadone for his incurable cough caused by his lung cancer. Admittedly, the pharmacist had to make a second level check before being able to fulfil the prescription, but thereafter, nobody checked on it, I would have thought this was a far more dangerous drug than cannabis oil.

alreadytaken Tue 19-Jun-18 18:20:45

that cannabis has medicinal uses has been known for years. It's pretty effective in stopping vomiting for patients undergoing chemotherapy. It helps quite a few people with epilepsy. It can help Parkinsons. As with any drug it wont benefit everyone.

Caught an interview on TV today where someone (I'm not good at remembering names) talked about how the Home secretary of the time refused even to read an expert report.

Of course cannabis can be dangerous too - but compounds have been developed to try and alleviate that risk.

Shouldnt need to tell a conservative minister that governments should only intervene with personal freedom when there is good reason to do so.

varian Wed 20-Jun-18 19:03:01

The medical use of cannabis should never ever have been illegal.

The recreational use of cannabis is perhaps debateable, but it seems to me that there is a very strong case for de-criminileisation.

This is something we should be debating.

alreadytaken Thu 21-Jun-18 18:53:06

Doctors used to be allowed to prescribe just about anything for a patient if they wanted on a "named patient" basis. The problem was just finding a supplier. They were trusted to use their clinical judgment unless other doctors questioned it and the General Medical Council upheld the complaints. Not sure when that freedom was removed.

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