Safety or invasion of privacy.

.... and if he walked on the ice there would be a hole where he fell through.

I'd like to know what gives anyone the right to approach young girls, drunk or not ?
NORMAL people ring for assistance ( authorities ) if they see people in distress of sorts alone on a bitterly cold night.

Didn't a chap in a car stop to ask if she was alright ? It was up to him to phone the emergency services of his concern.
I would have done, especially this day and age. If anything has happened that man is going to be racked with guilt.

It froze after he disappeared, the police have done everything they could and they’ve had the lowland search and rescue out searching so everything possible was done.

The trouble comes when this kind of technology gets in the wrong hands.

Ellen She told him she was fine. Men have to be so careful these days because of the danger of false accusation of sexual assault - and anyway there was no guarantee the emergency services would come out.

DH steers well clear of emergency services ever since he rang them one night when two drunks were fighting outside our house and trying to impale each other on our metal railings. We did not want that to happen so rang 999. The drunks were still fighting when the police arrived and they took one look at the situation,left them fighting and then threatened to arrest and charge DH with wasting police time.

I cannot imagine a world where babies are microchipped at birth!

The person who DID STOP and check on the girl has nothing to feel guilty about.... that'll be the ones who didnt.

And as if the police didnt try their best to find that lad based on the info they had at the time... also being somewhat cold and logical: finding his dead body in a frozen lake sooner rather than later wouldnt makr him less dead. Better to rule out places where he might be saved first surely

A couple said that they heard a woman screaming in distress on the night the girl went missing.
We could not hear that and just stay in bed and do nothing.

Drunks fighting are one thing, M0nica but we have several times over the years found people in distress and helped them.
Of course, these days, you can never be sure if they're carrying a knife or not.

Jalima, a drunk fight we would have ignored but these two were making very nearly successful attempts to impale each other on iron railings, long and pointed, which could have ended with one of them on a minimum of a manslaughter charge. That seemed to us to require police intervention - and I still think so.

notanan2 As someone who for many years lived yards from the Reading University Campus and knows it well. If a drunken student went missing late at night between the union and a hall of residence. The first place I would look is in the lake, as that is by far the most likely place for them to disappear. You can search an on land area and a lake at the same time. It just needs a large crowd of volunteers for dry land and a team of specialist divers/underwater searchers for the lake.

I saw a picture this week of a specialist team breaking up ice on a lake/pond elsewhere in the country looking for a body.

www.pbs.org/newshour/show/human-microchipping-sparks-debate-over-privacy-exploitation Do please take the time to read this and make up your own minds about microchipping humans. I am afraid I am with Privacy International, but younger generations won't have a problem with it I fear.

By that I meant that I agree with Privacy International's views, not that I have anything to do with them!

It comes down to personal responsibility. Everyone knows the results of getting steaming drunk and the young woman in question fell over twice after getting out of the taxi after being refused entry to the club for being drunk.
So wherever she'd been drinking earlier in the evening, staff must have known how drunk she was.
We can't get away from the fact that if these men and women are old enough to live away from home, albeit in halls, old enough to drink and drive, then they are old enough to bear the consequences.
What I found odd, was the woman's mother's facebook post about her daughter arriving home thst night. It seemed really odd IMO and calling her 'pie'.
Too much drunkenness altogether. People no lo her go out for a drink or two. They go out with a determination to get hammered and then 70+ police and hundreds of volunteers spend hundreds of hours looking for them.

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Often people can be traced via their phones nowadays. But I think chipping us might be a step too far. Plenty people don't want their movements traced - i.e. cheating spouses, people using sex workers, going to gay clubs etc. But DH and i regularly go on escorted tour holidays and sometimes someone gets lost and is late rejoining the group. I think before long it's possible when we go on these type of holidays we could be issued with trackers. I think technology has a long way to go. We just have to be careful how we use it.

The family of this young woman must be going through hell but NO to compulsory chipping of human beings, please!
I can't think of anything more nightmarish!

My hubby has young onset dementia. I had him tracked by his phone, wearing a gps tracker and ID seen into his clothing. I’d have done anything to keep him findable. He’s unfortunately in a care home now but I was terrified he’d become a statistic and go missing. I can’t insgine how these young people’s family are feeling. ?

I am in agreement to some extent with your views on personal responsibility GabriellaG54, others have to put their own safety at risk dealing with the irresponsibility of others. But conversely people should be safe on the streets, it's sad this is not the case now.

I remember my 16 year old daughter running away at night after a telling off. She has always been a very sensitive girl. We looked for her for hours. Finally went to the police. but when they heard she was 16 they did not want to know. Apparently if a 16 year old goes missing that is their choice. She rang us up from a nearby village next day and we went to collect her and I think there were some tears and we didn't have many rows after that...She is 54 now.

My heart goes out to anyone who has a relative or loved one go missing. But we can't subscribe to a mass programme of chipping newborns - this is taking away what we all of us as humans possess - agency. What about people who want to escape abusive parents, partners or simply want their own privacy? Those who go missing are very much in the minority and I'm not at all in favour of legislation to reduce personal freedoms any more than we have. I hope for a good outcome for all those with missing relatives.

I've been following the missing girl story too and wonder why on earth the woman who woke up hearing screaming from 'someone who sounded scared' didn't do something? Phone the police, even switching on lights might have frightened away somebody doing harm.

A proposal has been made that older people suffering from dementia should be chipped in case they wander off and can't find their way home. Not me, please!

The priority would seem to be to discourage people of any age from becoming so drunk that they lose all sense. Surely it's the demon drink that renders people unsafe, whether from other people or from their own stupidity.

(And I do enjoy the odd glass of wine, so not a rabid teetotaller.)

How things have changed. Back in the 1960's if I was out for the evening and it was after midnight I would get what was called the Workmans Bus. These were buses that ran every hour or so and were mainly for shift workers, but could be used by anyone else. I always felt safe on these, if anyone got on worse for drink they were quickly told to "leave the lass alone" by the men, they looked after you. Often one would be walking up my short way when I got off and you felt perfectly safe walking with one and chatting. Nowadays I wouldn't want my daughter doing that or even want to do it myself.

Well said, GoldenAge

No, I am afraid the thought of chipping people is horrifying. Yes, I can see why some of you think it could be used for good, but I feel that it is so open to abuse and is very, very "big brother". The control over our lives could be terrifying.