BBC Our Next Prime Minister

Femi Oluwale gives the Tory leadership contenders a fair hearing

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As far as I understand it, winterwhite (and I could be wrong), the problem was with the questioner who apparently had a controversial Twitter account which was deleted/hidden before he appeared on BBC radio and tv, then has been resurrected since then.
His views on there, apparently, do not accord with those in his own community who sound like sensible people.

I think I've missed something re Mr Patel. His question was, 'Do you agree that words have consequences?' Isn't it retrospective 'no platform'-ing to say that he should have been debarred from asking it because of what we now know? Of course if the BBC had known his background they would have chosen someone else, and his motives seem rather odd, but at the time I thought it a good and fair question.
The last questioner seemed at the time an obvious Labour plant, but it was a clear and neutral question so did that matter?

Completely agree, varian - what a ridiculous statement.

JenniferEccles has posted-

"To me it's a bit like going into a car showroom to possibly buy a new car. It's vital to make it clear from the outset that we will walk away with nothing (or in political terms 'no deal') if the deal they offer us isn't good enough."

This is a totally fallacious argument. If you walk away from the car showroom you still have exactly the same amount of money as when you went in. You lose nothing.

If we walk away from the EU with no deal we will be immeasureably worse off for generations to come - trashed economy, damaged national security and greatly diminished standing in the world.

If you want an analogy it is like threatening our partner by saying "if you don't give me what I want I'll shoot myself."

I'm just staggered that leavers keep repeating this stupid argument.

Callistemon

"I'm not sure if it was on the main news as I missed that, but there was certainly a report on our local news, POGS."
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It was being covered today , not sure about the BBC news coverage.

The BBC is certainly getting it's supposed impartiality questioned of late .

I think it has indirectly done neither Patel or Thakar any good by being chosen if the latest Guardian update is correct.

Fennel I said the same, just today ( Stewart reminds me of Ed Miliband) his looks and his speech.

I have been utterly fed up with Brexit for 3 years. Now the BBC is obsessed with which crooked, lying, power-hungry Tory will lead us further into ruin.
I switch off the radio at every current mention of politics (no TV) and cannot imagine why anyone would have watched a televised “debate”
The moment this is over the BBC will begin blanket coverage of the next US election.
I’m paying for a licence just to watch an occasional programme on I Player.

Rory Stewart reminds me of Ed Milliband in some ways.
Earnest and means well?

We were subjected to a series of mini power cuts, presumably instigated by Boris's minders who didn't want us to notice his evasions.

Surely you aren't suggesting that Boris is really Thor, grumppa?

'An imam who asked a question on the BBC’s Conservative leadership debate has been suspended by his mosque and the school he works for after it emerged he had previously made “extremely disturbing” comments on social media.'

I'm not sure if it was on the main news as I missed that, but there was certainly a report on our local news, POGS.
I think his appearance proved to be an embarrassment not just for the BBC but for people in his community too.

Chairs were a huge mistake. I too wondered whether R S had a bad back or hip, he looked so uncomfortable it must have thrown him off his stride. IMO he was the only one to give an honest answer re tax cuts and funding public services. But he does lack gravitas. As fitness for the task ahead I would rank Hunt first, then Javid, then Johnson, then Gove. Never thought I’d rank anyone below BJ, but Gove I def do.

They all did exactly what politicians do all the time. Said what they thought people wanted to hear. They shouted over each other like they were in a playground and non of them gave me any hope for the future

Rory seemed like a child masquerading as a grown up, not PM material, not that any of them are much cop.

Yes, you’re right Fennel. Disappointed to see him go. He seemed to be offering the only alternative in a cast of lookalikes.

Sad about that. I rather took to Rory.

As expected

Rory Stewart out of the race

Rory Stewart reminds me of Ed Milliband in some ways.

grumppa you didn’t miss much

Emily Mantles had to keep oninterrupting because they weren't answering tbe questions and there were time constraints

We were subjected to a series of mini power cuts, presumably instigated by Boris's minders who didn't want us to notice his evasions.

Emily was truly dreadful, wasn't she? Continually interrupting the candidates was very rude I thought.

Yes challenge them on what they said, but give them a chance to have their say uninterrupted.

As for the candidates, neither Rory nor Sajid were in my opinion, Prime Minister material so I hope they both get voted out.

Although I can't say I completely trust Boris, I still feel he is the best of the bunch.

I absolutely agree with him when he said that to take 'no deal' off the table in future negotiations would be crazy.

To me it's a bit like going into a car showroom to possibly buy a new car. It's vital to make it clear from the outset that we will walk away with nothing (or in political terms 'no deal') if the deal they offer us isn't good enough.

Whataboutery still alive and in play I see.

It makes much more sense to address the argument rather than something entirely different.

I wouldn’t bank on Johnson either if his statement at the weekend is anything to go by. The brextremists must be feeling very twitchy.

the next PM will be someone with no plan for our future, either with regards to Brexit or how to mend our broken society.

Well one has to hope hard left Labour and Corbyn never get the chance in that case.

Labour has exiled the working class with its stance on Brexit. Working class Leave voters have been sidelined and ignored.

The Labour Party has a lot to answer for in terms of a politically and socially fragmented society. They sneer at white van man, let's not forget. Can you blame such people for thinking Labour is not for them?

Broken Britain is another myth perpetrated by the left. If you believed their propaganda you'd imagine you lived anywhere but the green and pleasant lands of the UK. They seem to forget Europe and most member state countries are in turmoil too, much of it caused by a dislike of elite politicians implying they know what is best for the electorate, whether they want it or not. It is an abuse of power.

Labaik many adults seek their birth mother , some say they have always wanted to know about their blood family
from the time they are told they are adopted even though they have loving adopted parents. I have no idea what the
effect of being given up for adoption has on Gove, neither
have you.