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Littleannie Sat 09-Jan-21 15:55:49

Purely as a matter of interest, please can somebody tell me why all Gransnetters seem to be so anti Daily Mail? And which paper do they prefer instead? This is a polite question.

kittylester Sun 10-Jan-21 10:44:36

What merlot said.

We have the Mail and the Times delivered, watch Sky and BBC news, live in the real world and talk to real people of all sorts!

Callistemon Sun 10-Jan-21 10:47:10

Alegrias:
No Call, I don't read it, what a silly assumption.

Its online version has an article today complaining that Prince Harry isn't acting like Brigadier Prosser confused
This is the front page of the Scottish Mail on Sunday today

???

Alegrias1 Sun 10-Jan-21 10:49:30

Oh Call, act your age, not your shoe size.....

Callistemon Sun 10-Jan-21 10:51:24

Oh dear, did I hit a nerve?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 10-Jan-21 10:54:31

Surely reading a variety of newspapers would give the reader a wider knowledge of current affairs?

I personally find newspaper snobbery hilarious grin

GagaJo Sun 10-Jan-21 11:37:35

At times I do peruse 'a variety of newspapers', mainly for work, because news articles are frequently used in English exams, so students have to be able to analyse.

The Sun, silly, childish use of English, 90% gossip.
The Mail, scandalous, informal English, gossipy but with nuggets of news.
Times / Telegraph / Guardian, obvious political bias through tone/register/choice of topics, good standard English, higher level vocab choices, actual news.

I think it really depends if you are looking for entertainment OR news. I can't bear Kardashian or which celeb did what faux news, so avoid the red tops. Although I am left wing, I am happy to read broadsheets, despite their bias, because at least they are actually offering a perspective on news.

If I want entertainment, I will read something that is actually labelled fiction, rather than something pretending to be factual.

Floradora9 Sun 10-Jan-21 21:52:40

It is totally anti SNP from the letters page to the articles .

M0nica Sun 10-Jan-21 21:59:56

On various times of the week we read the Daily Mail, and its Sunday Edition, The i, The Observer, occasionally the Daily Telegraph and sometimes The Guardian.

We like to read papers that support all sides of the political spectrum. We buy them on different days for their specific content. The DT on Saturday has a wide variety of supplements, the Observer and Guardian is exceptionally good for food and recipes, The Mail for its medical and financial sections, the Guardian as a penance it is so self-righteously holier than thou and humourless.

M0nica Sun 10-Jan-21 22:00:41

Oh, and the i because it is brief and succinct.

MissAdventure Sun 10-Jan-21 22:06:25

People who read it always claim that they were in a waiting room with nothing else available, or that someone they don't really associate with left it behind, so they idly flicked through it, but did not read it.

Callistemon Sun 10-Jan-21 22:14:58

MissAdventure

People who read it always claim that they were in a waiting room with nothing else available, or that someone they don't really associate with left it behind, so they idly flicked through it, but did not read it.

It's known as The Clinton Syndrome.

tidyskatemum Sun 10-Jan-21 22:19:41

I look at the Daily Mail website from time to time but it just makes me tired. Non stop whinging about everything, articles that contradict one another and criticism of “celebs” partying abroad while still publishing fawning pictures of aforesaid “celebs” in their bikinis.

LauraNorder Sun 10-Jan-21 22:20:46

Have read all of the above, my regular paper pre COVID was the Telegraph, enjoyed the Times mainly for the crossword and used to take the Saturday Mail for the excellent TV guide.
Now subscribe to online Telegraph only.
Used to swap Telegraph and Guardian with my sister to get different perspective but always found it smug and self righteous.
That said I do think all the papers have some excellent journalists but many also contain a lot of fluff.
Agree with Lemon lots of intellectual snobbery involved. Just like soap operas ‘oh I never watch Corrie, it’s beneath me’. Some just can’t lighten up.

lemsip Sun 10-Jan-21 22:30:10

I call it inverted snobbery, when people profess too much to not reading .. Dm or watching soaps etc etc....They usually do, especially the Dm which you don't have to subscibe too like the telegraph, independent .....

dragonfly46 Sun 10-Jan-21 22:34:07

My DD once worked as a journalist on the Daily Mail. They go for sensationalism not facts which is why she left!

GagaJo Sun 10-Jan-21 22:34:33

So we are not allowed to say we don't watch soaps now, without being called inverted snobs? The mind boggles.

Lucretzia Sun 10-Jan-21 22:39:16

I read most papers. Online. I find the dislike for the DM amusing. It's not my paper of choice but to be fair none of them are. I'll read it. It doesn't make me sick/angry/faint but I don't take any of it as gospel. They're all much of a muchness really. One's political bias is evident in some. I'm not a political beast so this doesn't really apply to me.

But if it makes people feel better to say they loathe the DM then who am I to deny them such a simple pleasure.

But it doesn't impress me.

M0nica Sun 10-Jan-21 22:39:29

tidyskatemum surely you are talking about the online version, not the paper version

I read the paper version only and politically it has moved from the far right to a more centrist political position since a change of editor a couple of years ago. The paper version does not dwell much on celebrities, who I have usually never ever heard of. i just skip those pages, so much easier with the print version.

Bythe way I do not watch soap operas, never have. Since I have never seen them, I have no idea what they are about so snobbery doesn't come into it. I am just not a viewer. DH has just spent 8 weeks in hospital. I do not think I switched the tv on once in the eight weeks he was away.

On the otherhand, my radio was my constant companion, on all the time, from wake up to bedtime and sometimes in the night if I woke.

JenniferEccles Sun 10-Jan-21 22:40:52

Criticising the Mail has been going on for years. It gets called the Daily Fail, Daily Wail amongst other things. It supports the Conservatives but is certainly not afraid to take them to task over any shortcomings.

The paper has been responsible for many campaigns over the years, none of which it ever gets credited for on these forums!

My impression is that posters on GN are predominantly Left wing and therefore there is only one paper to read and quote from (incessantly) and that’s the Guardian. It’s readership is so small that I have joked that all its readers are all on here.

I like the Mail and I’m not afraid to admit it. The Tuesday health section and Wednesday’s Money Mail are both interesting and informative. It has one controversial journalist much hated by the Left but loved by his readers, Richard Littlejohn.

Each to their own, although as it is the top selling daily newspaper I am not alone in liking it, but am in the minority on Gransnet !

Lucretzia Sun 10-Jan-21 22:42:38

Oh you're right, JenniferEccles

Money Mail is excellent.

jeanio Sun 10-Jan-21 22:43:35

EllanVannin I also only read The Liverpool Echo and Wirral Globe online.

lemsip Sun 10-Jan-21 22:58:38

well, the inverted snobbery goes along with the intellectual snobbery mentioned in another post! lol

M0nica Sun 10-Jan-21 23:00:05

Absolutely agree with you JenniferEccles. My politics is left of centre, but I have been reading the DM and enjoying it for decades. I have tried to read The Guardian, I really have, but to quote my previous post. I read the Guardian as a penance it is so self-righteously holier than thou and humourless

Why leftwing worthiness is always accompanied by a total lack of any sense of humour or sense of the ridiculous - unless of course that humour is heavily politica and humourless. Compare the comic strips in the DM and the Guardian.

Lucretzia Sun 10-Jan-21 23:02:50

My Great Uncle was a High Court Judge. Rather well to do old chap.

He would never miss his News of the World

He loved it.

He had none of the hang ups that many have.

LauraNorder Sun 10-Jan-21 23:14:37

The mention of soaps was more about the snobbery angle. Many people don’t watch soaps or other light entertainment or in fact read the DM for a variety of reasons but there is a certain section of society with a sneering attitude when saying they don’t which implies that those who do are of lesser intelligence.
I did have a very challenging job in my early career and found that switching off with some light entertainment was very beneficial.