Las Vegas shooting

BlueBelle It is not an idea that seems bred into the psyche of all US people.

Some, yes. Not all.

I would hazard a guess that I know many more Americans than you, and they are enormously saddened by this horrendous event, and by the stranglehold the NRA have over the politics of their country. They would see the 2nd Amendment overturned in a heartbeat.

It’s a complete idea that seems bred into the psyche of all US people I was told catergorically that without owning a gun they would lose their freedom ? I have no understanding of what that means they have no freedom looking over your shoulder constantly is prison not freedom
The very thought of going shopping with a pistol in my shopping bag brings me out in a cold sweat
As for the amendment I guess they were still on horseback with muskets when that was made

interesting discussion on Radio Scotland this morning ,an American man was explaining they "couldn't" change the gun law as it was an amendment ,the scotsman who was discussing it with him asked why it couldn't be changed ..well its been law for 100 years was the answer....But wasn't SLAVERY law once an dyou managed to change that amendment was the answer... apparently guns are far more important to Americans than slaves ever were

Mr T has announced the shooter was a very very sick individual, demented and that gun control will be discussed at some point.
The next change it seems, is to approve silencers so that those using guns don't damage their ears. You couldn't make it up could you.
America is in a bad way isn't it, with growing gulfs between the have and have nots, between the white Americans and the rest. Dreadful and I feel quite despondent that the current Potus doesn't have the ability or the desire to improve things in any meaningful way. In fact, he seems to fuel the differences.

I gave up investing any emotion in US shootings after Sandy Hook. If that wasn't going to change things, nothing will.

Nothing to add really, as it has all been said by others, except that rage, despair, depression and all manner of mental health issues in the US seem to have no bearing on the amount of guns one can own, but surely the type of guns comes into it? Who needs a machine gun for personal protection?

I followed an American conversation about the gun control issue on twitter this morning. The most horrific aspect of it , for me, was the way that person after person joined it to say that they had lost close relatives and friends to guns. One of them even reported on another mass shooting which had just occurred. 'Only' 3 people killed in that one, thank goodness.

I can only think that America will never be 'Great' again until it becomes a more civilised nation and stops allowing the slaughter of its citizens.

There will be no change, the gun lobby financially supports the Government so no one wants to change. President Obama tried but with no success.

Americans are wedded to their weapons - pathetic.

I have avoided watching the news reports. This is so awful, but we know that the same-old, same-old media coverage, every last drop of emotion wrung from traumatised victims, minute after minute of mobile phone videos, stories of 'heroics' will be trawled out and the same old, same old protestations, political posturing and finger wagging will take place. AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

Think the Americans should chip away slowly at this. State by State.
Step 1 all guns should be registered. This would give valuable information about the situation and show the correlation between gun numbers and deaths.
Step2 in 3 years time. All machine guns banned... and so on
But frankly the Americans can do what they like but no sympathy from me about the results.

There'll be a bit of hand-wringing then forgotten about, until the next time.

If the Sandy Hook massacre where 20 primary school children and six teachers couldn't bring about some sort of reform/restriction, I can't see anything happening soon.

It seems counting the guns they found in his home he owned something like 42
America wake up for goodness sake you can’t buy a kinder egg but own multiple death weapons
Mad mad country

I haven't watched the news on this, some things are too horrible.
How was he allowed to have do many weapons? He kept reloading and you have to have a cool head for that, his partner must have known about his arsenal, if she did, she is guilty too.
Hard to think that one man, a grandfather could take those young lives when he's had his life, leave all those families bereft.
If they won't repeal the right to carry arms, make it just one gun under licence, why would anyone want so many weapons. I wish guns and knifes could be banned full stop, but that won't happen, America such a large and diverse country, isolated farmsteads etc. just waiting to be targeted.
Why would Nevada even condone repeat machine guns, fiercest reason, why silencers. They need to look at the carnage left and look at themselves real hard, this wouldn't have happened if people didn't think as they do. It could be their lived ones.

Why does anyone need a military gun like a machine gun? I recognise in the US there is a gun owning culture, but an automatic - what possible justification can there be.
Rage seems to be the major influence behind the mass killings. That and the easy availability of guns. The machine gun used in this slaughter didn't have a silencer. Evidently the state of Nevada wants there to be easy availability of silencers for this type of weapon. Again, my question is why. it seems highly unlikely the right to own guns will every be changed in the US. Surely though, it must be time that everyone must have a licence, no one can buy mass weapons and mental health assessments are mandatory, to be reviewed annually. Yes, expensive and time consuming but so are 33,000 deaths from guns shots.

Even if the Americans banned assault rifles it would help. Why does anyone need 10 guns?. Crazy.

It seems he'd never had even a traffic offence before apparently, nor had he been in the military. I saw a report that he had numerous firearms in that hotel room. Appalling and inexplicable, it seems.

If you include suicides the number of people killed by guns in the US in a year is approx 33,000

I may have got this wrong/misread it, but his father had been a bank robber. Just wondering if he wanted to be more famous/infamous than his father? As for the gun laws, we've just watched the interview on Ch4 with a pro gun person. The logic (?) beggars belief.

Well I don’t know Silverlining, just a thought, I guess no one will ever know what went though his head but as you have said it’s the whole gun culture that causes the problems

Las Vegas is in Nevada, where guns don’t have to be registered and there’s no limit on the number a person can own. Are they crazy?

Apparently he was a country music fan bluebell.

Are there any usa grans who can possibly explain to us why this gun infatuation ? 30,000 die each year from guns. That is truly awful. Yet dt still supports the rights for anyone and everyone can carry one or two or three, without in many cases, any checks.

Do you know I wonder if it was as simple as he was annoyed by the noise of the concert close by and just flipped He was from a retirement village
Bloody bloody guns US needs badly to sort it out but they never will especially with the president they now are unlucky enough to have

The anti-gun lobby don't have a prayer - the wealth and power of the NRA who buy senators means that nothing will change. I'm just glad it was an older white man. Before long, we'll get the conspiracy theories ( there is a group in the states that say Sandy Hook was fake news). Then there'll be the fundraising for the injured to pay for their healthcare.