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Why Barnard Castle

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paddyanne Sun 24-May-20 23:11:49

copied and pasted but please read In 2012 GlaxoSmithKline were fined $3 billion for fraud, overcharging and making false claims about medicines in the USA. In 2016, GlaxoSmithKline were fined £37.6 million in the UK for bribing companies not to produce generic copies of their out of patent drugs, thus overcharging the NHS.

Despite the fines, these frauds were still massively profitable for GlaxoSmithKline. A perfunctory search on the company brings up similar frauds and fines it perpetrated in South Africa and India. All this within the last decade. I cannot find any information that anyone was jailed, or even sacked, for these criminal activities. It is absolutely astonishing that such an habitually criminal enterprise carries on serenely in the UK. And what is particularly interesting today is that it carries on its crooked activity from its massive manufacturing and research base in Barnard Castle, County Durham.

On 12 April Dominic Cummings was seen in Castle Barnard during lockdown. Two days later, GlaxoSmithKline of Barnard Castle signed an agreement to develop and manufacture a Covid-19 vaccine with Sanofi of France.

Of course, that could be coincidence. As a child I lived in nearby Peterlee and I know families may go to Barnard Castle just for relaxation. Even when that is illegal. But GlaxoSmithKline Barnard Castle has been working 24/7 during the coronavirus crisis including the weekends. It was working.

The government’s extraordinary refusal to confirm or deny Cummings visit to Barnard Castle appears to make little sense if he just went there for a walk.

But surely if he was discussing Covid-19 vaccine business on behalf of the government, that would answer all the critics of his trip, would it not? They would want to trumpet it from the hills? I mean to believe otherwise, you would have to propound a crazed conspiracy theory. You would have to believe that criminal activity may be occurring again involving GlaxoSmithKline of the kind which might lead to fines of 37.6 million pounds for overcharging the NHS, or of three billion dollars for fraudulent medical claims in the USA. Nobody sane believes that kind of thing, do they?

Furret Mon 25-May-20 12:19:00

Let’s look at evidence

* respected investigative journalist posts ‘The real story is the huge transfer of government assets to private companies that he is overseeing under cover of a pandemic‘
* DC breaks lockdown to go and live on parents farm in Durham which just happened to be close to a GSK facility
* DC spotted in Barnard Castle breaking lockdown backed up by car reg number being noticed
* purely co-incidentally GSK announce lucrative deal a day or so later
* Boris refuses to comment on DC’s visit to BC.

Nope... nothing there, not a conspiracy just coincidence.

Furret Mon 25-May-20 12:10:31

This announcement from GSK on 14th April

What date was DC allegedly seen in Barnard Castle? And does this tie in with the tweet I posted up thread?

Purplepixie Mon 25-May-20 12:02:23

What a load of old tripe!

MaizieD Mon 25-May-20 11:56:55

I strongly suspect that any CCTV or tracking systems regarding these incidents will have quickly “disappeared”.

I understand that Landrover holds a database of the GPS tracking data from all their vehicles. Not easy to destroy. Of course, not necessarily easy to prove who was actually driving the car but it does tell where it was and when.

Dinahmo Mon 25-May-20 11:51:27

growstuff I'm a believer in conspiracy theories but don't accept them all at face value. History is littered with conspiracies and there is little evidence that they have stopped. If they have - when? Conspiracies abounded during Harold Wilson's tenure as PM.

Niobe Mon 25-May-20 11:02:14

Thanks for sharing this Paddyanne. Interesting reading. I will await developments but I very much doubt if either DC or BJ are doing nothing wrong.

Nortsat Mon 25-May-20 10:10:12

My capacity to be surprised is hugely diminished by the current political landscape. This is an interesting post and food for thought, thank you.

After all, when Obama was in the Whitehouse, if we had been told that the next President would behave as Trump behaves, we would have laughed ...

Rosalyn69 Mon 25-May-20 09:44:22

I strongly suspect that any CCTV or tracking systems regarding these incidents will have quickly “disappeared”.

Lucca Mon 25-May-20 09:36:52

Am I being thick. Either he was out and about in Barnard castle or he wasn’t. Surely with all the technology we have this can be proved/proven. (?)

MaizieD Mon 25-May-20 09:22:14

Cummings has been spotted around the county quite a lot in the last few weeks. As I noted above, he and his family are well known locals.

Barney is as good a place as any for a drive out and a stroll around. It's a very old settlement, good to look at (not much modern stuff) with the river Tees and the castle ruins to walk around. Who knows, they might have popped into Raby to see the deer on the way there...

MaizieD Mon 25-May-20 09:14:38

The Cummings family have strong links with Durham, full stop. They're locals. Well known.
Cummings' father owned a Durham nightclub, apparently described by Peter Stringfellow as the worst nightclub in the country.. His grandfather had a sports shop in Durham city.

I see that your story comes from Craig Murray, paddyann. I can never be sure if he's a reliable source or not. hmm

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 09:14:37

I agree with you Missfoodlove. GSK has 18 locations across the UK.

GSK has a deal with the French company, Sanofi, to develop a vaccine. I honestly don't think it would have been put together by a single person on a personal visit on one day to one of the random sites.

It does seem odd that Cummings should go to Barnard Castle. It's almost as though he wanted to be spotted.

Missfoodlove Mon 25-May-20 09:08:56

If Cummings was in secret talks with GSK, I’m sure it would they would have been conducted using technology!

I know BC well, it’s a small and remote town, nobody would expect to visit and not have a big chance of being seen.

MamaCaz Mon 25-May-20 09:00:47

The Cummings family have strong links with Barnard Castle. It's where Cummings senior (Robert 'Crassus' Cummings, DC's father) was educated.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 08:51:10

No dragonfly it has been confirmed by the police that his car was seen in Barnard Castle

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 08:50:45

My personal feeling is that it's a red herring. GSK/Sanofi is one of AstraZeneca's rivals in the race to develop a vaccine. If any of the pharma companies can come up with something, there'll be big money involved. Meanwhile, their share prices are on the rise.

sodapop Mon 25-May-20 08:43:02

Interesting hypothesis Paddyanne I await further information on this,

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 08:38:46

It's smoke and mirrors on an unprecedented scale.

dragonfly46 Mon 25-May-20 08:37:34

Ww2 the police have only said he was at the house not the various sittings around the county.

Daisymae Mon 25-May-20 08:36:05

Actually nothing would surprise me.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 08:35:24

GSK also has a site in Ware, Hertfordshire. Some senior jobs were moved to Barnard Castle a few years ago. The Ware site remains one of the major manufacturers of asthma inhalers in the world.

Sir Andrew Witty was once the CEO and a director of GSK.

Not sure if that has anything to do with anything, but quite interesting.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 08:26:26

I think the police have in fact substantiated some of the reports dragon

dragonfly46 Mon 25-May-20 08:24:10

I am not sure we can believe unsubstantiated reports that he was seen on a number of occasions in the area. There are a lot of men with bald heads around.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 08:08:48

Yes it’s west of London. My DD works for them.

Maggiemaybe Mon 25-May-20 08:05:03

It sounds a bit of a stretch that if someone were furtively visiting the facility they’d be walking round the area risking being seen before or after the event. Straight in, straight out from the car with the beanie pulled well down, surely?

As WWM2 says, this isn’t how things are done anyway. And isn’t the GSK HQ in London?