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Trump and Johnson following a pattern

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-May-20 00:08:18

The latest gem from Trump is that he is trying to remove the ability of companies like Facebook and twitter to police the content of their platforms. This comes after twitter put up a warning over a couple of trumps tweets concerning postal voting, which was patently untrue.
Trump is trying to stifle these companies. He has already refused to allow some news reporters into his news conferences as well as refusing to answer questions.
USA who prides itself on its level if democracy.

We are now seeing the same pattern emerging here. Cummings has already refused to allow ministers to be interviewed by various television/ radio shows. And Johnson is beginning to refuse to answer questions he doesn’t like.
Today he prevented two scientific officers from answering questions put to them by the media.
We know that extreme pressure was put in the bbc to take Maitlis off newsnight.

This is a very worrying and unprecedented turn of events.

Furret Fri 29-May-20 12:11:53

Technically didn't Boris read Classics. I think Stanley read Greats?

Luckygirl Fri 29-May-20 12:22:51

Unfortunately, Boris' defence of Cummings' actions does have a knock-on effect in terms of the virus. Anything that makes people think that breaking the rules is OK carries the possibility of further spread and a worse second wave. The scientists are fully aware of that and will have an opinion on it and should not have been silenced.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-May-20 14:41:26

Nick Robinson
@bbcnickrobinson
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20h
This is not a real news conference. The Chief Medical Officer & Chief Scientific Officer have either been gagged &/or have told No 10 that they will not publicly back the PM’s defence of Dominic Cummings. Follow up questions have been stopped.

Hetty58 Fri 29-May-20 14:50:10

Surely we've all noticed the avoidance tactics and deflection of blame. The shutting down with 'scientists don't answer political questions' was pathetic. He wants to 'draw a line under it and move on' - but it's not working.

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 15:03:46

Since when has asking a scientist and a medical officer if they would recommend that someone drives a car to see if their eyesight is safe enough to drive a car [when being concerned that it wasn't] a political question? Because that is one of the questions that was blocked.

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 15:05:45

The independent sage group say that the government is actually ignoring the advice given by the official sage group. Isn't it time the members of the official sage group actually did their job and told the british public that the government were going against their advice?

Callistemon Fri 29-May-20 15:59:45

Furret may I correct your statement that the two scientific advisers are Johnson's sidekicks.

They are highly qualified professional scientific advisers.
Johnson was wrong to butt in before they could speak.

They may well, of course, have said that this was a political question not a scientific one and they preferred not to comment but he did not give them the chance.
However, the lines are blurred here because the politics of this is dependent on the science.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-May-20 16:28:47

Another Trumpian

Martin Lewis
@MartinSLewis
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1h
WHAT IS
@10DowningStreet
SCARED OF?

Today the Chancellor makes his next big support scheme announcement. MSE & I've been explaining these for 10wks, with millions following our journalism

And again No10's just said "No, you CAN'T ask Q at the press conference"

Furret Sat 30-May-20 07:39:04

I know that Callistemon and as such should have stood their ground and demanded the respect from Boris that their position, qualifications and experience demanded.

They failed in that duty.

They should have spoken up.

Furret Sat 30-May-20 07:42:14

PS if only the politics did depend on the science. In the opinion of many Boris is riding rough-shod over the statistics in his efforts to protect the economy,

It will prove to be false economy in the long term.

lemongrove Sat 30-May-20 09:34:32

Which ‘many’ would that be I wonder? The many armchair experts I expect.

Callistemon Sat 30-May-20 09:36:23

Perhaps they kept quiet and just let him bluster on, Furret rather than look undignified too.

I know you know, of course.