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kittylester Sat 28-May-22 13:39:52

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/64080ea8-dda2-11ec-bcbd-e35b52e0266c?shareToken=7fa1ffc602897b59b61e03f9c08fbf68

This is from the Times but was in lots of papers.

volver Sat 28-May-22 20:59:28

Gossamerbeynon1945

I know that, but I find your last post, confusing. Who said Trans people are bad for the environment - I certainly didn't! Could be me, but I always thought the Green party were environmentalist.

And why does that mean they can't have a policy on trans people?

volver Sat 28-May-22 21:00:27

Galaxy

It was quite a long time ago now. To be fair it was a particular section of the party not green party policy grin. Everyone took the piss for a few days.

And yet, still people thinks it's a good reason not to vote Green.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:03:36

It doesn't.

volver Sat 28-May-22 21:04:11

So why did you bring it up?

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:05:54

Sorry, does it mean that no-one can bring up other subjects?

Galaxy Sat 28-May-22 21:06:39

I know the electorate not behaving as you want them to. What can you do.
I think it's worth noting how long that particular nonsense has hung around for, 5 years maybe. Am sure theres a lesson to be learnt there about the importance of 'the messaging' but that's the Blairite in me coming to the fore.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:08:41

I really liked Tony Blair. Maybe I'll vote Independent!

volver Sat 28-May-22 21:13:07

Gossamerbeynon1945

Sorry, does it mean that no-one can bring up other subjects?

The Green party are a political party. They have policies on trans inclusivity, the NHS and education. And lots of other things. And the environment.

People can bring up any subject they like. But wondering why the Green Party "get mixed up with trans people"? Then saying that of course they can have policies about it?

Its late on a Saturday. Maybe its me.

volver Sat 28-May-22 21:14:25

Galaxy

I know the electorate not behaving as you want them to. What can you do.
I think it's worth noting how long that particular nonsense has hung around for, 5 years maybe. Am sure theres a lesson to be learnt there about the importance of 'the messaging' but that's the Blairite in me coming to the fore.

Was that for me Galaxy?

The electorate can behave any way they like, I'd just like them to know what they are voting for. Or against.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:14:52

Volver - shall we agree to disagree?

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:15:37

and part as friends!

volver Sat 28-May-22 21:15:49

Yes ?

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 28-May-22 21:23:19

Good.

Grany Sun 29-May-22 08:17:23

volver

^Successful Scandinavian countries have a labour socialist government.^

I did a bit of a Google.

Norway - Social Democrats
Sweden - Social Democrats
Denmark - Social Democrats
Iceland - Liberal
Finland - Social Democrats

That's what I meant social democrats

These countries do very well health care, education, good pension good wages government takes care of people people trust government. Higher taxes but good wages.

DaisyAnne Mon 30-May-22 00:01:17

Labour are Democratic Socialists volver. It may sound daft but there really is a difference between Democratic Socialists and Social Democrats. I would never describe myself as a Socialist but I was a founder member of the SDP all those years ago.