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does being healthy really minimise the effects of the menopause?

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megletfrommn Fri 20-Mar-15 23:41:49

I'm visiting from mn for some advice.

Did those of you who were fairly healthy have a less troubling menopause? Mentally and or physically.

My body has been playing me up for a couple of years since I was 38. Had hysterectomy at 35 (still got ovaries) which i've heard can bring forward the menopause. Gp gave me a random blood test and said it was fine. I don't feel fine. However I'm pretty healthy, never smoked, don't drink, mostly veggie diet, very active at the gym and go running, weight on the low side of normal.

Any experience's would be appreciated, I feel like I'm going mad! Apologies for any typo's, new phone with a silly keyboard that I can't type on.

loopylou Fri 27-Mar-15 07:29:55

OP probably as bemused as me!
Menopause to apples in three posts?
grin

Elegran Fri 27-Mar-15 08:04:59

They could not patent all seed, only something that they had created or hybridised themselves, and the patent would only last for a set number of years. Other growers can produce it under licence. If they have spent a lot of money experimenting and then on producing and marketing a new product, it is only reasonable that they recoup that money.

Once the patent runs out, everyone is free to produce the seed or whatever.

Who would take the trouble to investigate new and useful crosses if others could then make the profit from mass producing them at once?

Granjura I found apple (fruit) patents by searching for extra trigger words than just apple and patent - I had met the same computer patents.

Elegran Fri 27-Mar-15 08:06:09

Sorry, that was for durhamjen - too many similar letters in your username.

durhamjen Fri 27-Mar-15 10:25:33

What I am saying is why do it in the first place unless you want to make more money out of it than a normal apple grower.
Why patent any crop food?
That's why I do not buy Pink Lady apples.

durhamjen Fri 27-Mar-15 10:26:21

Loopy, it's actually six pages, not three posts.

thatbags Fri 27-Mar-15 12:06:01

Why shouldn't someone make money out of cloning (or grafting or whatever) a new variety of apple? You speak as if making a living from something imginative or experimental is wrong, jend.

Elegran Fri 27-Mar-15 12:34:18

People are making money out of food already - some of it obscene amounts from selling us rubbish.

They are not patenting or restricting anything that exists already. No-one will starve because they don't have access to food. Retailers can sell anything they like. Buyers can buy anything they like.

What they patent is their right to receive a payment if anyone uses what they have created for the first few years of its production. That happens with any other product which has been designed by someone and made by someone else.

Should they invest time and money finding better crosses out of their own pocket? There would not be many new varieties appearing if that were the case.There are not many philanthropic hobby plant breeders about any more, they went extinct when gentlemen clergymen with time to spare became a rare species.

JessM Sat 28-Mar-15 07:50:09

So nobody in the food industry should ever try to develop a new or improved product with a view to making money out of it?
There is very little that we eat that is in a natural state durhamjen. Pretty much everything has been improved by animal or plant breeding or developed by food technologists.

Anya Sat 28-Mar-15 08:17:22

'Pretty much everything has been improved by animal or plant breeding' ...except Homo Sapiens.

At one time 'humans' were subject to the law of natural selection. But with the advent of good health care, medicine, unlimited supply of food and so on (at least in the developed world) I wonder just how much the gene pool is weakened?

JessM Sat 28-Mar-15 09:06:44

Good job we don't eat people really.
I don't think the good health care has gone on for enough generations to destroy the gene pool. And it is still the case that for much of humanity, natural selection is pretty brutal, weeding out those with congenital health problems, weak immune systems etc.