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Well done Ireland

(34 Posts)
Gracesgran Sun 24-May-15 09:06:10

Not just for the "yes" vote which I applaud, but for offering the vote to the whole nation and to those who felt it so important they travelled home to vote.

thatbags Sun 24-May-15 17:37:23

It's OK, mcem, I did understand. I was pleasantly amused by the diversion.

mcem Sun 24-May-15 17:24:17

bags my point was simply that I found it odd to single out just a few specific adjectives to put in quotes, when they've been absorbed into everyday speech so need no special treatment.

mcem Sun 24-May-15 17:21:09

Meant to add that a few years back we were enjoying some Guiness in Dublin, down by the river. Didn't dawn on us that it was a gay pub even with the name Out on the Liffey. Bet they're downing a few celebratory pints there today!

thatbags Sun 24-May-15 17:19:24

Is there vodka in it or something?

thatbags Sun 24-May-15 17:19:10

Was innocently reading this thread and got to a point where I was reading about the use of inverted commas. Gransnet mind bend kicking in. Pass the cake, GT.

thatbags Sun 24-May-15 17:17:49

And well done, Ireland, celebratory cakes or no.

mcem Sun 24-May-15 17:17:20

Good girl - this time you didn't mention the c word.
I'm still wondering if mollie and like-minded posters would find my daughter's wedding c* more or less offensive as it had 2 little brides but no words!
The slogan or the symbols?

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 17:09:36

Mcem do have a cupcake . If only it were larger, I could ice a slogan on it < sighs >

mcem Sun 24-May-15 17:00:22

G2 I notice that you don't feel it's necessary to use quotes when using the word heterosexual. I whole-heartedly agree with you.
You really are naughty to keep mentioning cakes when you've had your wrist (metaphorically) slapped!

mcem Sun 24-May-15 16:53:53

Nope! If you refer to straight people you don't need quotes. Do you use them for 'tall' people or 'grumpy ' ones? The words are simply adjectives and there's no need for inverted commas unĺess you're quoting someone.
Ps I made a polite and non-aggressive comment and asked a pertinent question.
Where's the offence?
I look forward to reading mollie's clarification of her opinions of us Scots!,

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 16:47:37

Probably not all at the same time of course "as a heterosexual, white , female mother and grandmother, I should like to make the following contribution to the debate on .....?????'

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 16:45:21

I'm happy to be described as heterosexual in circumstances where that is relevant to the matter under discussion . I don't like the word 'straight' As what's the opposite? Crooked? Bent? If we're talking about gay marriage, the sexual orientation of a person may well be pertinent to the discussion ( if the person wants to mention it). There are many situations where descriptions other than 'human' are appropriate. Sometimes I would want to identify myself as a woman, as white, as a mother, as a grandmother etc

Gracesgran Sun 24-May-15 16:39:38

I don't think anyone ever suggested that only gay people should vote; that seems a slightly weird comment but maybe I misunderstood. smile

I can't really see how this relates to Scotland either mollie65. Scotland is a country in its own right not a minority group. Perhaps some clarification is needed.

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 16:37:45

Yep - Mollie I would and do frequently when it's appropriate! Do have another cupcake

mollie65 Sun 24-May-15 16:36:56

'but for offering the vote to the whole nation' was in the op if you read it in full

mollie65 Sun 24-May-15 16:35:02

I don't understand if we are all human 'gay' or 'straight' should form part of the description of anybody - hence my 'quotes'
I see no reason why anyone would refer to straight people without putting the straight in quotes.
you did notice the grin in the comment about Scotland referendum so there was no need to take offence grin

pompa Sun 24-May-15 16:33:09

Gx2 am I seeing a lighter side of you ?, I like it. smile I shall have to remember your earlier quote " *******@@@@@@@******" it could be useful elsewhere from time to time.

The "yes" vote is something to be happy about, gay even. A [cake] seems very relevant, and wine

mollie65 Sun 24-May-15 16:13:25

G2 - are you as rude and opinionated in RL - before you post maybe you should think - would you say 'ffs - lighten up' to someone you were having a conversation with and not hiding behind a keyboard. swearing is very childish.
and yes - enough about the cakes - keep going on the other thread.

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 15:59:23

To allow gay marriage, the Constitution had to be amended. To amend the Constitution, Parliament had to agree to hold a referendum in order for that amendment to be voted on. I don't think for one minute that gg was suggesting that only gay people could vote? But anyway, I do wonder now what NI is going to do apart from order more cakes

mcem Sun 24-May-15 15:56:56

Ah mollie - a familiar refrain.
Not sure if I'm understanding your post so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you mean you'd have liked to vote in the Scottish referendum in order to be rid of the troublesome Scots ? ( better luck next time).
By the way, I don't think you need to enclose the word gay in inverted commas any longer as it's accepted as normal parlance these days - in the same way as you don't need them for any other adjective. We wouldn't say 'unpleasant' post or 'nasty' reply so I think we can regard them as redundant around gay.
I realise that pedants might point out that I should in fact use them as I'm quoting you but I think the point is clear.

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 15:21:47

Oh Mollie ffs lighten up! Here have a cupcake

Stansgran Sun 24-May-15 14:34:38

I'm still waiting for them to see the light on their treatment of pregnant women.

mollie65 Sun 24-May-15 14:24:44

I see the 'no' campaign were gracious in defeat - were that all losers reacted the same way.

mollie65 Sun 24-May-15 14:08:45

of course the whole country rightly had a vote - as it affects everyone - if it had only been offered to 'gay' people it would have been massively discriminatory not to mention a 'foregone conclusion' (and therefore pointless.
same should have applied to the referendum on Scotland independence in that it affected us all. I suspect the vote would have gone 'YES' grin
GT - enough about the 'cakes' - there is already a long long thread on that.

GrannyTwice Sun 24-May-15 12:36:53

NI is even more of an anomaly now!! more cakes needed