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Yvette Cooper, live webchat, Tuesday 10 July, 1-2pm

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GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 28-Jun-12 20:31:27

Yvette Cooper is the Shadow Home Secretary, Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities and one of the most important figures in the current Labour Party, often tipped as a future leader. She has a particular interest in what she calls the stretched generation - looking after elderly parents, helping out with grandchildren, worrying about pensions. She's a mother of three and, with her husband Ed Balls, she's half of the first married couple to serve in the British cabinet.

We're delighted that she's coming in for a webchat. Please ask your questions here.

whenim64 Thu 28-Jun-12 21:08:23

Yvette, it would be good if you became known as the first female politician (in fact any politician) who could answer a question without being evasive, or telling the interviewer that what the actual question is, is something else you do want to answer. Do politicians really have no idea just how fed up the public is with the constant ducking and diving? Junior Minister Chloe Smith has really highlighted this unacceptable behaviour in the last couple of days. We don't want Jeremy Paxman to have to beat the answer out of you all, just give us honest answers, please? What do you think?

Grannygee Fri 29-Jun-12 12:15:12

I wonder how you foresee the future generations of children growing up without the parental contact that we (or certainly I) used to have when we were children, given that the young parents of today often have to work many more hours to make ends meet?
My daughter and son in law are certainly of that ilk and although my grandson is happy enough I know he is passed from pillar to post between a nanny, one parent then the other. I think that children really need a certain amount of continuity in their lives and attention from parents is vital. Being able to sit and listen to my children read after school was something I made a priority but how many parents get a chance to let alone the time now with working so many hours then having to tackle the endless chores once they are back home?

Grandnessa Fri 29-Jun-12 13:35:05

How I agree with those previous gransnetters.
It can be difficult to be " in the middle"
Elderly parents to care for my parents
Both had dementia. We kept them at home
As long as possible with very little help. We
Also had to help with grandchildren when the
Sibling became very ill all when we are getting
Old ourselves. All this with very little help from
The state. It strikes me this can only get worse
As the population lives longer and parents
Both have to work to pay ridiculous mortgages. It's all a
Matter of priorities and this government seems
To have completely the wrong priorities.

suttonJ Fri 29-Jun-12 16:47:50

I'm keen to emphasise the inequalities inherent in the system, when care for elderly parents, with dementia, becomes necessary. My late father needed such care, and now my mum lives in a home specialising in dementia care. Unlike much that I read about, the home is superb...but comes with price tag to match. So we're selling the family home to pay for it....and, Yvette, you know how little a modest house in the North of England will fetch. Basically, I'm having to gamble that mum doesn't outlive the proceeds of the house sale. How awful is that?!
Yet if mum had an illness needing nursing care, as opposed to dementia, then the NHS would help her with the costs.
I'd really like the Labour Party to recognise these inequalities, and introduce compulsory state insurance, to cover possible future care costs. Much fairer. Like all insurance, some of us would 'win' and others would 'lose'.

My late dad, believed that if he did the right thing, worked hard, and saved, then he and his family would be looked after by the state, from the cradle to the grave, and that he'd be the first of our family to pass on savings and a house to his children. How wrong he was.
Can you offer any hope of change in the system?

(And, yes, I'm part of the stretched generation, caring, gladly, for grandchildren too!)

distaffgran Thu 05-Jul-12 15:02:46

Have you ever been invited to a country supper?

Anagram Thu 05-Jul-12 22:38:09

I know this is trivial, but couldn't you persuade your husband to get a better haircut? I can't take my eyes off it whenever he's on tv.

Mamie Fri 06-Jul-12 15:59:19

Hello Yvette
Here on Gransnet we have been getting quite upset about what sometimes feels like the demonisation of the older generation. Baby-boomer seems to have become a term of abuse and it feels as if we are besieged by requests (more like orders really) to move out of our homes, do "National Service as volunteers"(?), take in lodgers, give up allowances etc etc. I don't get the impression that this comes from the population as a whole, but more from a
London-centric group of media people and politicians whose own lives are hardly lived on the breadline. I have no reason to believe that the Labour Party buys into this agenda, but I would be interested to hear your views on why this is happening and what the Labour Party will do to counter it. I wonder what you think these people feel they have to gain by stirring up inter-generational strife?

Golightly Fri 06-Jul-12 16:06:39

Do you think it is right that a woman over pension age who had paid the married woman's NI contribution, was widowed at the age of 50 and subsequently married a younger man, should lose all right to a percentage of her first husbands state pension?
It is not enough to say you can claim pension credits if you meet the criteria. Who else then benefits from your late husband's full contribution record if not you?
I know Age Concern carries a financial warning to any pensioners thinking of remarrying on their web site.

Barrow Sat 07-Jul-12 12:04:04

Like Golightly I was unable to claim any of my late husband's pension as he died before he became of pensionable age and I already have a full pension in my own right having paid full N.I. contributions all my working life. How can this be fair? My husband paid this money in the anticipation that it would help us in our later years - once again it is a case of those who have tried to live responsibly and make provision for their retirement are punished whilst those who didn't are rewarded.

A second question. How do you think politicians can regain the trust of the people following the expenses scandal. When I talk to my friends they all say that it doesn't matter who you vote for because they are all the same - out to line their own pockets. Would it not be advisable for all politicians to have held down a "proper" job for at least five years before they can be eligible to stand for election. Most politicians (of all parties) seem to go from university to political researcher to MP without having any idea of what it is like to live in the real world

GadaboutGran Sat 07-Jul-12 17:53:10

Like Mamie, I too would like to hear your views on the demonisation of 'baby-boomers' (as if they are an homogenous group) and the repeated suggestion that there is an inter-generational war & those of us born in the post-war period are to blame for current problems we were somehow meant to predict (and presumably should have refused our free University education etc).

politigeek Sun 08-Jul-12 11:09:10

You obviously stood aside for your husband in the last Labour leadership election. Was the deal that he would stand aside for you if it should come up again while you are still in a position to contest it? Will he find that easy?

skydiver Sun 08-Jul-12 11:15:02

If we have all got to go on working longer, what is going to give? Either there is going to be no extra childcare/out of hours support, or parents are going to have to sacrifice their careers, or grandparents are going to have to stop working at a cost to their pensions. What is the answer?

sneetch Sun 08-Jul-12 11:31:52

I would like to repeat what mamie and gadabout are saying. There is so much hostility to our generation and no politicians seem to be speaking up for us.
It is nonsense to say we are a selfish generation. Most grandparents love their children and grandchildren dearly and a lot of us are very active in our local communities, 'giving something back' in the jargon.
It is not our fault that the economy has become so dependent on a small sector, finance, and there aren't enough jobs for young people. It isn't our fault either that there aren't enough of the right kind of houses for young couples and families. None of this is the fault of a particular generation, it's the fault of policy and leaving everything to the markets and not protecting and nurturing our communities.
Is Labour prepared to say that while young people without jobs are scarred, so are 50-plus people who can't get jobs because of ageism? And that people who have brought up their families in houses that are still at the centre of family life should not be told to move out of them? Why do you think it has become so fashionable to hate us?

greatgablegran Mon 09-Jul-12 09:49:49

If the Tories are bedevilled by the "posh boys" tag, do you think it's fair to say that Labour is still tainted by being seen as all about boys in sharp suits?

There's not much sense that the nerdy boys who run Labour really understand families, especially their older members. What can you do to show us you are not merely a metropolitan gang of mostly men from good universities who are good at spin?

Gally Mon 09-Jul-12 10:10:46

How do you manage to give your children enough time? I chose to stay at home and raise my own children - I don't think they or I suffered; the only suffering I am doing now is living on half of my late husband's Private Pension which, considering what he did, is a pittance - how I wish he had worked in the Public sector!! Perhaps you could also tell me the whereabouts of my MP Mr Gordon Brown - he seems to have disappeared since he lost office?
We are told we Baby Boomers have it all - I don't think so, although I don't think I would like to be starting all over again right now. I have absolutely no faith in any Politician of any persuasion - how sad is that?

closetgran Mon 09-Jul-12 12:15:20

I recently had to look at care homes for my mum. I am afraid that the gap between the council-run homes and the private ones was immense. While I am sure the quality of staff in local authority run care homes can be very high, the fact is that without money, you can't provide activities, and people were left sitting staring into space for much of the day. At other private homes there were activities all the time.

What is Labour's position on this inequality? Why should old people who are poor be left to vegetate in their old age? Is there any way of closing this gap?

Foreveryoung Mon 09-Jul-12 13:10:59

Why aren't you leader of the Labour party? Why didn't you stand, was it about family loyalty to your husband something your leader obviously lacks. Lord knows the Labour party needs a credible and worthy leader rather than a wet blanket. Go on Yvette your country needs you!

DavidH22 Mon 09-Jul-12 16:43:41

There is much cynicism surrounding politicians of all parties after the expenses scandal, links with big business, a feeling that policies favour a chosen few and that politicians have generally lost touch with, for want of a better phrase, the common man. How do you think Labour should try to get back to being a party of and for the people and clean up the image of politicians?
Second question if allowed: Are you and Ed able to leave politics outside once you shut your front door?

POGS Mon 09-Jul-12 23:15:10

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POGS Mon 09-Jul-12 23:39:13

Are you aware the public are sick and tired of the politics of hypocrisy, spin and blame. It seems those who protest the most are the worst at it!. The public see through spin and it is a distinct turn off and they will not forgive or forget those who think they are masters/mistresses of it.

I watch Parliament live and I am appalled Speaker Bercow allows such a shambles to take place. The politics of Westminster has degenerated into a bunch of oiks using hand gestures and interupting every word that's said. The voter is completely turned off by this childish behaviour. It simply would not be tollerated in business or even an infants school.

The world can watch Parliament in session and it is an embarrassment not only to the voter but to the country. Shame on you all. It is about time Parliament displayed statesmanship and gave serious thought to the debate in hand, at least try and make the voter think you have a modicum of intelligence to act on our behalf. It's no excuse to say "well that's how Parliament is", we want and deserve better especially with the country in such a mess since 2008.

Do you think it is acceptable the public see and perceive politicians to be so childish and ill-mannered leading us to think you all simply should 'get it' and 'calm down' and do you think some parliamentarians will ever grow up.

haddersmum Tue 10-Jul-12 09:04:50

A report in the papers today says that the average family of four needs an income of £37600 to have the most basic of living standards and many risk slipping into poverty. Historically those in my family have worked hard in average paid employment. My daughter,s great grandparents were able to rent a two bedroom house with garden, her grandparents a three bedroom house with garden, her parents to buy a four bedroom house with garden. She and her husband are bring up their two children in a two bedroom flat with no garden, which we downsized to help them put a deposit on. She works full time, her mother, grandmother and great grandmother either did not work or were able to be at home in their children's infancy. Most grandmothers want better for their. Hidden and grandchildren. We seemed to take a wrong turn somewhere in the 1990s, how does Yvette see the future for our families?

whenim64 Tue 10-Jul-12 09:53:51

Well said POGS

effblinder Tue 10-Jul-12 10:51:45

Hi Yvette,

Do you think that women can really 'have it all' with a career and kids or should we all just stop trying?

Do you think equality could ever be a reality or just an unattainable standard we should strive towards but never reach?

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 11:29:44

There is no talk of stopping the "perks" that pensioners receive. First of all these are not perks they are entitlements that have been earned over years of working.

What do you think the criteria would be to stop payment of these entitlements. I think there has been a study which showed that means testing would cost more than would be saved.

Currently if a pensioner has savings over a certain amount they are unable to claim any help with council tax and the like. I have savings over that limit, but my savings are invested to give me an income, which together with my state pension is still less than £12,000 p.a.

I have an ongoing illness which means I will be taking medication for the rest of my life - if I have to pay for the prescriptions at the current rate it would cost me approximately £30 per month.

There was an article in the newspaper yesterday saying that isolation is a problem for pensioners and should be treated as an illness. Take away the bus pass and more pensioners would be unable to go anywhere because of the cost of bus fares and more would become isolated.

The Winter Fuel Allowance was introduced because older people were having to choose between heating their homes or eating - do we want to go back to the time when we get reports of people dying of hypothermia in their own homes!

It's time for someone to stand up and speak for the older generation. We are a large group who, invariable vote, cross us at your peril!!!

Foreveryoung Tue 10-Jul-12 11:58:32

Should George Osbourne apologise to Ed Balls, or should your Ed just grow a thicker skin?

Annobel Tue 10-Jul-12 12:45:22

Instead of messing about with winter fuel allowance and other so-called perks, would you agree that it would be easier to tax these (rather than means-test them) so that poorer senior citizens would still receive them but the better off would pay for them in proportion to their income.

merlotgran Tue 10-Jul-12 12:53:26

Hello Yvette,
By the time they retire, many grandparents will have already put in years of caring for elderly parents as well as providing essential support with grandchildren. If everyone is now going to have to work longer before they can retire, it won't be uncommon for the person who is sandwiched in the middle (usually a woman) to buckle under the strain especially as their partner could become ill or disabled and also be in need of care and support. Do you not think that riasing the retirement age, especially for women, will inevitably put an extra burden on the NHS?

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 13:04:46

Yvette has been delayed on the tube but will be here in five minutes. Apologies, but don't wander off....

floro Tue 10-Jul-12 13:08:29

Depressed that we have been scrimping and saving all our lives so we would be ok when we retired - and now it seems that there was no point whatsoever. What incentive is there for anyone to do this in future?

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 13:12:01

Yvette's here now and ready to go, so we'll get started.

Iwasframed Tue 10-Jul-12 13:14:09

Hi Yvette,

Isn't the flipped side of the stretched generation that men still aren't doing enough? How do we do something to change that?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:14:51

Hello. Sorry to be a little late. Really good to be here at Gransnet and thank you Geraldine and everyone for the crisps and tea waiting for me. I'll try to answer as many questions as fast as possible, but forgive the pace of my typing. Yvette

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:17:17

Grandnessa

How I agree with those previous gransnetters.
It can be difficult to be " in the middle"
Elderly parents to care for my parents
Both had dementia. We kept them at home
As long as possible with very little help. We
Also had to help with grandchildren when the
Sibling became very ill all when we are getting
Old ourselves. All this with very little help from
The state. It strikes me this can only get worse
As the population lives longer and parents
Both have to work to pay ridiculous mortgages. It's all a
Matter of priorities and this government seems
To have completely the wrong priorities.

I agree. People talk about a squeezed middle, but there's also a stretched middle - a middle generation of women in their fifties and sixties who are now looking after the younger generation and their elderly relatives at the same time. Which makes it even more troubling that women in their fifties have also seen a 40% increase in unemployment -- the steepest of any group -- in the last two years, and face the biggest hit to their pensions too.

cheeriblegran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:18:38

My mother is in a care home that is costing approximately £1200 a week and has been for a year. If she is there for another 6 months she will have exhausted her entire life savings and may well have to move - the council money won't remotely cover this - which will probably kill her, as well as leaving her destitute.

Do you agree there's something wrong with being in a position where you hope your mother will die because there are so few good options for her if she lives?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:20:06

Gally

How do you manage to give your children enough time? I chose to stay at home and raise my own children - I don't think they or I suffered; the only suffering I am doing now is living on half of my late husband's Private Pension which, considering what he did, is a pittance - how I wish he had worked in the Public sector!! Perhaps you could also tell me the whereabouts of my MP Mr Gordon Brown - he seems to have disappeared since he lost office?
We are told we Baby Boomers have it all - I don't think so, although I don't think I would like to be starting all over again right now. I have absolutely no faith in any Politician of any persuasion - how sad is that?

I wouldn't cope without my Mum. Ed and I take turns to do the school run each morning and we've always taken our children to and fro with us between Yorkshire and London each week, and we work hard to protect family time at weekends and in the evenings. But my Mum is the fourth emergency service in our family - if we suddenly have to work late she's brilliant at coming round and putting the kids to bed.

dopehed Tue 10-Jul-12 13:20:27

What is the answer to the stretched middle? Is it more state intervention? or are there other ways of supporting women at this time in our lives?

frantick Tue 10-Jul-12 13:22:33

I believe the editor of Vogue has said you are the woman she would most like to see in her magazine. Are you interested in clothes? Is it something you would ever do?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:23:55

GadaboutGran

Like Mamie, I too would like to hear your views on the demonisation of 'baby-boomers' (as if they are an homogenous group) and the repeated suggestion that there is an inter-generational war & those of us born in the post-war period are to blame for current problems we were somehow meant to predict (and presumably should have refused our free University education etc).

Gally and others raised this one too.

I strongly disagree with David Willetts, the Conservative Minister who has argued that the baby boom generation have had it too easy at the expense of everyone else. My impression is that particularly women in their fifties and sixties are doing more than anyone else to hold families and communities together - and are at the same time paying a heavier price than many other people from the double dip recession and coalition government policies. When child care tax credit is cut, it is often grandparents who take the strain, and when social care support is cut its the same generation that has to do more to look after their elderly relatives too.

goodenoughgran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:25:11

It looks as though the government isn't going to do anything about funding social care. Do you agree that this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - and what would Labour do?

Does the 'death tax' now look like a dreadful lost opportunity?

spamfilter Tue 10-Jul-12 13:28:20

There's been a fair bit of discussion on Gransnet about whether we want to be paid for looking after grandchildren - and the general feeling is no, because we love doing it and being paid for it would turn it into a different relationship.

So what other ways can you think of to help those of us who have - sometimes quite large - responsibilities caring for our grandchildren?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:29:57

dopehed

What is the answer to the stretched middle? Is it more state intervention? or are there other ways of supporting women at this time in our lives?

I think we have to start by giving older women in particular a stronger voice in politics. My view is that the coalition government really isn't listening and just doesn't get the damage they are doing with things like changes to the pension age for women in their fifties which mean they will lose thousands of pounds with very little time to plan. We have campaigned against that. But there are challenges to all politicians. For too long politicians and journalists have talked about young people, families with children and pensioners. That misses out a vital generation who are often still working or in active retirement, supporting their families too and I think the pressures on women in their fifties and sixties are often completely overlooked. That's why Labour is keen to set up an Older Women's Commission to give the stretched middle more of a voice - and yes, to look at issues like jobs, ageism, pensions, social care etc

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:32:31

Setting up and Older Women's Commission is all very well but wouldn't it become just another quango which costs a lot and achieves very little.

pudding Tue 10-Jul-12 13:33:35

Many of us are from the radical 60s generation. We prided ourselves on having different ideas about things from our parents. Traditionally older people have tended to get more conservative as they age. Do you expect our generation to become conservative or do you think we will go on being liberal and a bit bolshie?

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:34:02

The problem is Yvette that now this hare has been set running - baby boomers are ripping off younger generations - that people are starting to believe it. This lunchtime on You and Yours there was a programme about employment for older people and they read out a letter from a resentful 28 year old which was almost vitriolic. It seems that the Tories are trying to soften up the population to believe this myth. There are millions of middle aged and older people who have not had great careers and have not cashed in on the property boom.
The You and Yours busted a lot of myths. Worth a listen.
Any ideas how Labour can combat this big divisive myth that we are all in clover to the detriment of 28 year olds?

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:36:24

Any ideas why I should join the Labour party having voted Labour all my life?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:40

DavidH22

There is much cynicism surrounding politicians of all parties after the expenses scandal, links with big business, a feeling that policies favour a chosen few and that politicians have generally lost touch with, for want of a better phrase, the common man. How do you think Labour should try to get back to being a party of and for the people and clean up the image of politicians?
Second question if allowed: Are you and Ed able to leave politics outside once you shut your front door?

Second question first, David: we certainly talk about lots other than politics, we'd go mad if we didn't. And anyway three growing children make sure of it. Ed has just taken up piano lessons! Meanwhile I am trying and failing to grow vegetables. Even worse than last year, mice and pigeons are getting at the peas and lack of sun means I think the tomatoes will stay green for ever.

First question: Labour lost the election heavily - so we all know we have a lot of work to do, listening to people and making sure we are championing the things people really care about. There are still big differences in politics - I really don't think all politicians and all political parties are the same. For example I think the Coalition government is deeply wrong to give £40,000 as a tax cut for the richest people in the country, at the same time as taking away £3,000 from a working family on the minimum wage. We've been campaigning on this in the Labour party, but we know we still have a lot more to do.

quizzical Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:46

It's often said that women start to feel invisible in middle age because there is still so much emphasis in the media etc on attractiveness. Television executives don't want presenters who have lines and unruly hair. How do we counter this and become more visible - especially if we have spent our lives caring for other people rather than becoming chief executives or politicians? That doesn't mean we don't have political views!

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:22

I have always voted, always for the person not the party, but now for the first time I am so disillusioned with the current crop of politicians. I grew up in a home where my Father was a union activist and campaigned for the Labour candidates in elections. He felt that voting was really important but I now feel that no matter who I vote for nothing will change, no-one will listen to what the public actually wants and politicians of every party and merely looking out for themselves. What do you think politicians can do to recitify this feeling not just in me but in many of my friends.

pammygran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:28

When are you & your husband along with the rest of the Labour party, especially the ghastly Gordon Brown ,going to admit & apolgise for the appalling mess you left the country in regarding the economy?...even worse the number of immigrants you let in, changing this country forever..

troubadour Tue 10-Jul-12 13:45:53

I have been concerned about the Labour Party's move towards saying that immigration is A Bad Thing. I know this is a populist line in some areas but surely the argument needs to be made that immigrants bring things to the country - always have done - and often do difficult jobs. Many care homes would simply stop functioning without immigrant, and often very caring, workers.

As shadow home secretary, are you going to go along with the immigrant-bashing or are you prepared to make the difficult arguments?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:47:54

JessM

The problem is Yvette that now this hare has been set running - baby boomers are ripping off younger generations - that people are starting to believe it. This lunchtime on You and Yours there was a programme about employment for older people and they read out a letter from a resentful 28 year old which was almost vitriolic. It seems that the Tories are trying to soften up the population to believe this myth. There are millions of middle aged and older people who have not had great careers and have not cashed in on the property boom.
The You and Yours busted a lot of myths. Worth a listen.
Any ideas how Labour can combat this big divisive myth that we are all in clover to the detriment of 28 year olds?

No one doubts there is clearly a serious problem for young people at the moment. Youth unemployment is through the roof, EMAs have been cut and tuition fees are rocketing. And we remember the problems of the 1980s when a "lost generation" then found it even harder to get work later on.

But blaming baby boomers or stoking up intergenerational strife as Mamie mentioned earlier is complete rubbish.

Look at the facts. Women in their fifties and sixties have seen a 39% increase in unemployment in the last two years compared to an increase for the population as a whole of 5%. Changes to the state retirement age mean women in their mid fifties are hardest hit losing around £8,000 with little time to change their retirement or pension plans to compensate. And most people in the baby boomer generation are working extremely hard to support other generations of their own families -- they are the first generation to have had to cope with caring for elderly parents on such a massive scale.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:53:31

Barrow

I have always voted, always for the person not the party, but now for the first time I am so disillusioned with the current crop of politicians. I grew up in a home where my Father was a union activist and campaigned for the Labour candidates in elections. He felt that voting was really important but I now feel that no matter who I vote for nothing will change, no-one will listen to what the public actually wants and politicians of every party and merely looking out for themselves. What do you think politicians can do to recitify this feeling not just in me but in many of my friends.

Politics does make a difference but you are right we have to work to make it more relevant. Voting Labour in 1997 meant we were able to bring in the National Minimum Wage and Sure Start -- very different to the Conservatives plans at the time. And right now I strongly disagree with the Conservatives over their costly reorganisation of the NHS which is putting more emphasis on income from the private sector; Labour has said we would repeal the NHS Reform Bill. So I hope we can persuade you that there is more to politics and that it is worth voting because I think there's a lot at stake for the country.

jessieg Tue 10-Jul-12 13:53:36

Do you really think Ed M is the best person to be leading the Labour Party right now?

upwardsandonwards Tue 10-Jul-12 13:55:24

Is it difficult for you and your husband, both having such big and demanding jobs, especially when so much of politics is about who's up and who's down? How do you avoid being competitive with each other?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:00:51

goodenoughgran

It looks as though the government isn't going to do anything about funding social care. Do you agree that this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - and what would Labour do?

Does the 'death tax' now look like a dreadful lost opportunity?

I do think this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - in fact I think it is a growing crisis.

We wanted cross party talks on this, because we know there aren't easy answers, reforms need to be substantial and long term. I think the Dilnot Commission was a very good starting point for those cross party discussions and we should be trying to build a consensus. It is disappointing that Andrew Lansley has pulled out of those discussions and we expect the government to announce tomorrow that major changes will now not take place at all in this Parliament. The trouble is that the pressures are growing all the time. Councils have cut social care heavily and more and more people need support. So we'll see what the government puts forward tomorrow, but I think we are going to need more rapid action -- including legislation in this Parliament not the next one.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:08:26

Iwasframed

Hi Yvette,

Isn't the flipped side of the stretched generation that men still aren't doing enough? How do we do something to change that?

There is a big gap still for men and women in their fifties and sixties -- with full time women earning on average £4,500 a year less than full time men. Interestingly women are also more likely to work beyond the state retirement age than men, and they are much less likely to be in well paid jobs if they do so. Two thirds of men who work beyond the retirement age are in high skilled jobs. Two thirds of women who work beyond the retirement age are in low skilled jobs.

My sense is that men of all generations are doing more in the family than they were twenty years ago. When I do school gate surgeries in my constituency more and more grandfathers are picking up the children after school as well as fathers and grandmothers. But we know there is still a big difference. I think we should be making it easier and much more common for men to do more in the family throughout their lives - including encouraging paternity leave and flexible parental leave.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:13:19

frantick

I believe the editor of Vogue has said you are the woman she would most like to see in her magazine. Are you interested in clothes? Is it something you would ever do?

I'm wearing a stripey Marks & Spencers dress today -- which I really like. Though with Kate Bostock's departure today, I hope I'm not in a minority.

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 14:16:04

Sadly, Yvette's got to go now. Thanks so much to her for coming in. Gransnet is going to be launching a survey later today on issues faced by middle aged women - we'll be starting a thread.

In the mean time, thanks to Yvette for coming in and telling us where her lovely dress came from smile and for her many thought-provoking answers to our questions.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:18:06

Thank you to everyone, sorry I didn't get through all the questions.

I hope lots of people will respond to the Gransnet survey. Many Labour MPs are also doing surveys of the views and concerns of women in their fifties and sixties over the summer because we want this to be an important theme at Labour Party Conference in the autumn when we hope to set out more details about the Older Women's Commission too.

(And thank you to Gransnet for the tea and sandwich too)

POGS Tue 10-Jul-12 15:32:06

I'm sorry but I for one have found this to be very poor in the reply stakes.
It has confirmed my point on politicians, all spin and hypocrisy.

At least Ann Widdicombe (sorry don't know how to spell her name).answered all the questions and didn't cherry pick them either.

A bit of a waste of time asking her thoughts for most of us. I feel a bit cheated.

I apologise if I got the wrong end of the stick for the value of this type of interview, perhaps I expected too much.

Anagram Tue 10-Jul-12 15:51:00

I agree, her answers were very predictable and full of politician-speak.

Ella46 Tue 10-Jul-12 16:08:18

Nothing new there then!

merlotgran Tue 10-Jul-12 16:09:23

I agree POGS I totted up ten questions answered so I think she allowed 6 mins per answer and that's your lot! Anne Widdicombe belted out the answers. She was great. I suppose if you go into a chatroom with a politician this is what you can expect.

rosiemus Tue 10-Jul-12 16:20:52

Although...Vince Cable answered tons of them (including mine grin) so maybe not all politicians... http://www.gransnet.com/webchats/vince-cable-mp

rosiemus Tue 10-Jul-12 16:21:19

Oh I forgot to do the link thing

www.gransnet.com/webchats/vince-cable-mp

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 16:21:42

Yes I have to agree, there were no real answers at all, she failed to address the things that worry most of us gransnetters, instead using the time to spout the same dreary lines we are all fed up of hearing. Total waste of time.

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 16:28:36

slow typist! needs to join a forum and speed up a bit.

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 16:30:19

Perhaps she could have dictated her answers and someone at GNHQ could have typed them in for her grin

Gally Tue 10-Jul-12 16:34:17

Nope, no real answers, although we do know she likes growing vegetables. I STILL don't know where Gordon Brown is - or what he's doing!! Possibly best not to know although I wish he'd resign and let someone take over his salary and do something for his constituents grin

Anagram Tue 10-Jul-12 16:38:06

Yes - and he's very rarely seen in Parliament, even for important votes.
(She didn't answer my question about Ed's haircut, either! grin)

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 16:50:02

She always looks knackered. Less so that she did in government, but still, knackered.

Mamie Tue 10-Jul-12 16:58:02

I thought her answers were OK on the subject she had come to talk about. I wouldn't expect her to answer questions about other politicians, including Ed Balls. Why should she?

Anagram Tue 10-Jul-12 16:59:26

'Twas only a joke, Mamie! Of course I didn't expect her to answer - although it would have made her seem more human if she'd shown a sense of humour...hmm

Mamie Tue 10-Jul-12 17:07:48

No wasn't yours Anagram - it was another one which was much more political.

whenim64 Tue 10-Jul-12 17:16:17

Not at all impressed by Yvette Cooper. Thanks for inviting her in, Gransnet. She certainly picked the easiest issues to reply about, and not very many of them.

pammygran Tue 10-Jul-12 18:46:41

Typical politician..only answers the questions she can slither out of..god help us ... a Labour government...Cameron get some BALLS!!!

Anagram Tue 10-Jul-12 18:48:39

But not that one! hmm

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 19:29:49

She was mentioned as a potential party leader, but somehow i don't think so...
I would love to take her shopping though!

Annobel Wed 11-Jul-12 10:35:53

I was disappointed that she dodged Troubadour's question about immigration. This is her field as shadow Home Secretary. The Labour Party has been slow to respond to 'immigrant bashing' which is shameful. Think about it - how would the NHS function without nurses and doctors from all quarters of the globe? The hospitality industry seems to thrive on the contribution of young people from the old Eastern bloc, here to improve their English rather than settle permanently. Most of us, if we look far enough back, have very mixed ancestry: Romans and Anglo Saxons were invaders, as were the Vikings and Normans. Other groups have, thankfully, arrived in a more peaceful manner, to make a contribution to our society and economy.

Barrow Wed 11-Jul-12 12:53:08

I agree we have a lot to thank immigrants for - I think what a lot of people object to are the immigrants who come here and seem to be able to claim benefits without having made a contribution. I appreciate these are probably in the minority but they are the ones that get the publicity. The same as most teenagers are hard working but its only the lazy work shy ones you read about - its what sells newspapers.

jeni Wed 11-Jul-12 13:00:14

Are there any statistics about this does anyone know?

pammygran Wed 11-Jul-12 15:14:14

How weird, just spoken to my best friend whose DIL works at the Treasury..she says Yvette Cooper is a really nice person, one of the nicest ministers..but cant say same about her hubbie!

Mamie Wed 11-Jul-12 15:41:10

I actually think that she hasn't quite got the genre of social media yet. I find her tweets quite stilted; Ed's are much better.

POGS Wed 11-Jul-12 19:39:27

She has been in politics a long time now, well versed in the media.

At the end of the day she dodged the difficult questions. Typical politician I'm afraid, talk about the opposition because there is nothing to say about her own party.

What would they all do if they were told do not spin, do not be a hypocrite, do not be partisan, do not speak if you have nothing to say.

What would they do if they were told do tell the electorate what your party will deliver, do speak the truth, do behave in a mature fashion, do answer a question without making an opinion on what the opposition are doing,do stop acting like children in parliament, do be honest.

They could'nt cope.

Mamie Thu 12-Jul-12 07:03:54

I think she is more than capable of dealing with the conventional media POGS. I was making a point about social media i.e. blogs, twitter, webchats etc

GadaboutGran Fri 13-Jul-12 18:08:05

Following on from Pammmy gran, I have a friend whose daughter works for senior politicians and says George Osborne is really good to work for and far nicer & considerate than a recent ex Labour PM who was an unpleasant slave driver. But as an ardent socialist she still wouldn't vote for George.

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