I contributed to a discussion about this on another forum and the thread was closed as people were so dogmatic in their views, so it is very hearteniing to see such a balanced discussion on this forum.
It is a difficult isuue. I worked for many years as the picture editor of the Travellers' Times, which is the national mag for Gypsies and Travellers - so I could spend a long time answering this thread.
In summary, I can see both sides.
Historically Travellers/Gypsies did indeed travel - they followed the seasonal work and were a valued part of local communities. Farmers would set aside part of a field for them to settle on during the season. Then a law was brought in that limited the number of trailers that could be in one place, effectively outlawing their lifestyle. Because of the huge problems that this caused (having to live on the roadside etc.), some years later a new law was brought in forcing local authorities to create sites - however it was not as easy as that, because every time a LA tried to comply with the law, local objections and planning laws made it very difficult for them to set these up. The requirement on LAs to provide sites has since been withdrawn.
So...what are Travellers to do?? Their lifestyle has been outlawed and they are pretty well sunk really.
"Once a Traveller, always a Traveller" is something that has been said to me so many times - the reason many are settled in houses and on permanent sites (if they can get one) is not because they do not want to travel and pursue their lifestyle, but because they have no choice. Also, many have now recognised the importance of education to their children and wish to be settled for parts of the year for this reason.
The dilemma facing many travellers is that they want to create a site legally, but cannot - 90% of planning applications from the likes of us get granted, and 90% of those from travellers are refused - what are they to do?
Now, I am not naive and know that travellers can create problems because of the clash of cultures, and I have sympathy with those who do not want a site on their doorstep. And there are some aspects of traveller culture that I do not like at all, and some others that I hugely admire. I have met some whom I would never wish to see again, and others who are wonderful characters, full of courage and humour ( a bit like all of us really).
I have no axe to grind on their behalf, as I do understand the problems, and do agree that huge sites are a blight - but if you ask most travellers what they want, it is a small family site with good relations with their neighbours. The current legal suituation has forced them to gang together in the sort of site we see at Dale Farm.
Whilst I can see both sides, I do think it is important that people are informed about the very real Catch 22 in which the travelling community finds itself. They wish to comply with the law in the main, but cannot do so without abandoning their lifestyle and all that they hold dear.
I often wonder what it would be like if the situation were reversed - i.e. if travelling around and living in trailers was the norm and being settled in a house was the exception - how might we feel if living in a house was outlawed? What would be our response? - how would we deal with it?
Yes I agree with all you say GG - therein lies the problem, there are good and bad. I do understand the difficulties that can be faced when the two communities come up against each other.
Travellers should not be any different when it comes to complying with the law and (like all of us) they should be obliged to obey the law, but they are faced with the additional problem that the law is stacked against them. This is where some action needs to be taken.
As a society we have taken many steps to ensure that other cultures are accommodated sensitively (e.g. granting planning permission for mosques) - we have not done so well with the travelling community.
I do not have any easy answers, and share the feeling that I would not want a large site in my community. I suppose it is a question of "not understanding someone till you have walked in their shoes" - I have tried on travellers' shoes to some degree by having close contact with many, and sympathise with their dillemma. But I also symapthise with those in the settled community who have faced the sort of problems you outline.
I wish I knew what the answer was. I just know that we cannot solve the problem by tarring all travellers with the same brush.
I do feel for those young children on Dale Farm, who have not chosen this situation and must be terrified by what is going on.
This is the first time I have posted on here - I promise the next one will be shorter!!!