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To be furious at further royal privileges

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bluebell Sat 29-Jun-13 11:06:28

Galen Mon 15-Jul-13 22:08:46

Lucky you! I'd love to see Hamlet! I'm looking at RSC for next year. Would combine it with an overnight hotel stay. Any suggestions? Would have to be a w/e though.

gracesmum Mon 15-Jul-13 21:59:39

That reminds me - went to Hamlet at RSC the other week and I heard quote after quote after quote! Did Shakespeare really say everything first? It certainly seems so (As You LIke It provides most of the rest!)

Galen Mon 15-Jul-13 21:56:28

No, there are several theories about it. It might be a form of jealousy, or a genuine hormone generated problem.
I went to a very interesting lecture last year on pain that did active cat scans on close partners when one was subjected to pain, the scan of the partners brain showed an identical response!
'There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of!'

gracesmum Mon 15-Jul-13 21:48:07

I always thought it was called hangover galen!grin or under different circunstances, "manflu"

Bags Mon 15-Jul-13 20:45:40

Moggsy, I was one of the people who didn't object to the term "brood mare", and yet one of your posts from yesterday seems to be berating me for objecting to it.

In fact, all of your posts seem to be berating somebody, or several somebodies. How exhausting.

I think I'll bugger off to threads with less berating.

Galen Mon 15-Jul-13 20:30:33

It's quite well researched. If you google it there are some interesting articles.

j08 Mon 15-Jul-13 19:56:40

It's called imagination Galen. hmm

annodomini Mon 15-Jul-13 18:53:35

Thank goodness my ex didn't know that when I was pregnant, Galen. He would undoubtedly have developed the relevant symptoms.

Galen Mon 15-Jul-13 18:13:38

As a matter of mild interest, men can get morning sickness and labour pains! It's called 'couvade'

Aka Mon 15-Jul-13 17:54:00

I have to say you sound both very angry and very impassioned. And that's fine if you feel strongly about something.
I too have been accused of being 'rude and unreasonable' by a certain someone and I'm neither of those things. So yes, you have a right to state your views, strongly, if that's the sort of person you are and I don't intend to sound patronising.

MOGGSY77 Mon 15-Jul-13 00:25:37

Its for others to decide whenim64, not me, no smilies please, it seems ok for insults to come my way but not yours and the others who have the absolute gall to make essentially grunting comments but never, ever put forward their own views to be tested by public opinion. My style may not suit you but if the scales of justice are a reality those who put forward reasoned arguments appear to support my anti racist, anti monarchy and anti supremacist views. All I ask is not to be patronized, accused of whatever is thrown my way without justification and to be given the same rights of self expression you demand. One thing I can never be accused of is running with both the hare and the hounds or courting popularity, at the risk of being, yet again, accused of insulting you, read your own posts on this and other threads. No one "owns " this forum, not even the old timers who seem to believe number of posts equals rightness of opinion. Please, no one else point out my " bad manners " for being forthright and not putting important, to me, points in a direct way.

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 23:35:02

Back off and accept your insults, eh, Peter? You have a distorted view of Gransnet and that's a shame, because so many share your concerns. Just not the way you express them. Peace smile

MOGGSY77 Sun 14-Jul-13 23:10:47

angry, impassioned way , 100% not angry but incorrect!
Thanks for the opportunity to get it right
Many thanks

MOGGSY77 Sun 14-Jul-13 23:03:16

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Eloethan Sun 14-Jul-13 23:01:50

I've just seen the latest comments on this thread. Merlot you suggest that one of the reasons the monarchy is a good thing is because of all the people it employs. That's true - after all, if one requires a butler to squeeze one's toothpaste then staffing levels would need to be high. But I remember reading a newspaper article some time ago that detailed the wages of royal household employees, and was shocked to see the paltry amount they receive - so whilst enjoying the best of everything for themselves, the royal family deny a decent living to those that work for them.

Aka Sun 14-Jul-13 22:40:48

Oxford dictionary

Aka Sun 14-Jul-13 22:40:32

'To rant'
[no object]
speak or shout at length in an angry, impassioned way:

Sounds about right....

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 22:08:48

Children all got degrees and fine adults with great values, thank you, Peter. They did some shelf-stacking and voluntary work, too. My job is done! grin

MOGGSY77 Sun 14-Jul-13 22:05:25

Thank you Nonu
You have a right to ignore the contents of feedback, please feel free not to read what makes you feel uncomfortable. Ranting, a strange way to describe a post you haven't even to set out an argument or attempted to prove is wrong, or misconstrued in any way shape or I have said, if Gransnet is content to let their grandchildren grow up in an environment when both 16 year old's and university graduates know they face a life, at best at being a freeby shelf stacker, at worst having to rely on food banks to feed their be it. Rant or protest whemin64.

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 21:22:16

Peter, check back. Nowhere have you been berated for fighting for women's rights. Berated for your diatribes - yes. You're an intellient bloke - these comments won't be the first of this kind of feedback you've received. You can see for yoursef how Gransnetters set out their side of an issue. It's your choice to present your argument with all guns blazing and assume you will get a negative reaction. What do you expect? Treat others as you would be treated, please.

If all you respond with is more ranting, I won't bother reading any more of your posts, either. Sorry!

Nonu Sun 14-Jul-13 20:54:55

MOGGSY , strangerly enough I can see where you you are coming from.

MOGGSY77 Sun 14-Jul-13 20:50:08

At last, a tiny step forward. On other posts I am berated for fighting for women's rights in the 1970s, long before the word feminist took over said rights. My point wasn't about the individual, it was made to point out the absurdity of a member of the royal family belittling the final and absolute sacrifice of a woman who had been brought up in a family, like my own, where you took full and final responsibilities for your actions. Whether you like it or not many women in the 1970s demanded nothing changed, they appeared to believe they were content with their allocated place in society. their right and l respected their point of view, clearly a one way street. Go back to being a republican and decline to defend the rights of a god fearing Christian Indian family who mourn the death of their daughter whilst living with the very real, to them, shame that their daughter had taken a life, her own, because she was ashamed she couldn't follow in full her parental teaching and upbringing. My beliefs are socialist, republican and dont end at Lands End.
Now lets end this thread with exactly the same sniggers, jokes and other devices that let people believe you cant change the world. I,m too old and too tired to do it. If just one person can see the sense in what this old fool believes in and carries it forward perhaps next year their will be two etc etc.

whenim64 Sun 14-Jul-13 11:41:47

Freudian slip Butty? grin

Yes, I have a son who is a feminist and so are his many male friends. Can't speak for the other one - his behaviour is usually women-friendly, but he delights in sexist banter to wind me and his sisters up! Grrrr!

Back to the thread...........

Butty Sun 14-Jul-13 11:32:37

Oops "who would happily...."

Butty Sun 14-Jul-13 11:31:19

Moggsy On your point of feminism. Of course men can be feminists. I'm married to one that would happily hold his hand up to being one. It is not the sole preserve of women to be feminists. It's an attitude of mind, not what gender one is.