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To think that parents should not abuse children in this way?

(44 Posts)
bluebell Thu 11-Jul-13 11:02:51

Or newspapers encourage them to do so?

maxgran Tue 16-Jul-13 12:23:50

What a stupid mother.
She has the daughter that she deserves and that she has created!

The article should be about an inadequate mother - not about the child's behaviour.
Anyone who admits their daughter bites and scratches as if its the child's fault and something the rest of them 'suffer' should seriously look at their ability to be a parent.
She also mentions walking on eggshells around the girl??! Yeah, right!

Joan Thu 11-Jul-13 23:15:03

Oh, and that thing about the Mum objecting to foreign language songs - I don't think there is any doubt about it; that mum is a racist.

Joan Thu 11-Jul-13 23:13:37

Well, the young lass in the original post here seems like a handful, but simple, enforced boundaries should do the trick, along with giving her the cold shoulder when she acts up, instead of attention. The Mum seems to do the bribe thing - BIG mistake.

I assumed, reading it, that she'd changed the names for privacy's sake, but perhaps not. There seems to be a hint of revenge in the article. There was no mention of how she goes on in school. Perhaps the boundaries imposed by school life are working, there.

Stansgran Thu 11-Jul-13 21:25:23

I didn't reread post meant that awful woman

Stansgran Thu 11-Jul-13 21:24:18

Wasn't there a rather eccentric woman Lady Ottiline Morrell a friend of the Sitwells and Siegfried Sassoon ? I bet that's where the name came from. And imm sure tha taw full woman on the other thread would love her children to be friends. Sorry feeling very scratchy tonight and shouldn't be so catty.

Nonu Thu 11-Jul-13 21:16:16

JANE , loved it , they certainly put themselves about .

Bit like the present day really !!!!!!!

Does anything change ??

Ana Thu 11-Jul-13 21:08:10

I kept thinking of Ottilie Patterson...{jazz singer}

janeainsworth Thu 11-Jul-13 21:05:50

Possibly this one
She was quite a girl too wink

Mishap Thu 11-Jul-13 20:57:53

How sad that this mother is prepared to label her child in this way in the media. What can she be thinking of? Not of how to be a good mother I suspect. The fact that she is willing to do this says it all. Poor child.

Marelli Thu 11-Jul-13 19:15:14


nanaej Thu 11-Jul-13 19:06:55

Oh oh! Mixing threads..straying onto the Katie apprentice person discussion about names!!

Marelli Thu 11-Jul-13 19:03:53

What an awful woman. The behaviour does make me think of my own DGD's, however hmm, although she has no siblings.

Nelliemoser Thu 11-Jul-13 18:50:11

* jingle* I thought the name fitted the story pretty well. Poor child!

j08 Thu 11-Jul-13 18:45:38

I gave up reading the article when I saw they had called the kid "Ottoline". Where the 'eck did they dig that one up? hmm

nanaej Thu 11-Jul-13 17:09:01

Irony of the story you mention Flickety is that Uganda was mooted by Britain as a possible Jewish homeland before it was agreed to give Palestine.

Good old GB giving away countries it doesn't even own!

annodomini Thu 11-Jul-13 16:38:46

The readers who voted in the DM poll on whether the school was right to ban the beauty queen from the prom were massively in favour of the school's decision.

FlicketyB Thu 11-Jul-13 16:16:42

What always amazes me is the complete lack of self-awareness of the parents. In all these stories the parents just show up their own inadequacies and dare I say sheer stupidity, rather than garner any sympathy for either their plight or the plight of their child.

I'm sure I was traumatised when I was forced to learn Norwegian drinking songs at university, but it could just have been a hangover.

Nelliemoser Thu 11-Jul-13 16:14:26

Surely not nanaej those ladies denied it totally. !!

I did like this line though!

'It's being forced on our children,' Ms Eve said. 'They're only eight-years-old - it's a struggle to learn their own language let alone goodness knows what else.
It says more about those parents that they might have wished to reveal.

The best such moment was my 3rd or 4th generation Jewish former neighbour who's ancestors had come to the UK around the early 1900s fleeing the pogroms of the Russian Empire.
In the 1980s she was heard complaining about the influx of another group of African Asians from one or other of the former British East African states who were doing a bit of ethnic cleansing at the time. She seemed oblivious to the irony of her position.

Deedaa Thu 11-Jul-13 15:28:56

We had to sing carols in French and Latin - double the trauma! As for being "forced" to do things, almost all my school work was done under duress, does anybody CHOOSE to do calculus or clause analysis ??

nanaej Thu 11-Jul-13 15:27:27

Are either of those two items worthy of national press? I don't really think so!

nanaej Thu 11-Jul-13 15:26:11

I am surprised i was not sued ..we taught children songs in various languages:Urdu, French, Spanish, Arabic, Swedish, and Norwegian are the ones i remember..there are probably more. I do not want to sound cynical but are the protesting parents just being a bit xenophobic?

As to the 'traumatised' prom girl..hardly worth a comment. She was informed of the rules, warned she was not meeting the criteria and she is old enough to enter Beauty Pageants she needs to grow up, listen to what she is told and take some responsibility for her actions! Poor girl nearly smudged her make up!

Elegran Thu 11-Jul-13 15:10:20

Did it ocur to the parents to point out to the boys who were "traumatised" that the children from Lithuania were having an even more traumatic time not only learning songs in English but also having every single thing said to them at school in a foreign language? Including everything said to them by the children they were playing with?

Nelliemoser Thu 11-Jul-13 14:48:40

OMG! I shall have to sue as I was traumatized by having to learn songs in French when I was at primary school when they were trying to get us used to language learning.

If the parents don't like the children singing in Lithuanian perhaps they should emigrate to Spain to avoid all these foreigners coming into Britain.

As for the beauty queen good job too! Schools need some discipline.

Nelliemoser Thu 11-Jul-13 14:32:37

I thinks its an appalling way to treat a child, to subject her to that sort of publicity. That can only further damage the relationship.

I am speculating here, but did she want a nice fluffy pretty and compliant girl. Having spoiled her by never setting any boundaries has Mum eventually become aware how wrong this child's behaviour is but doesn't want to acknowledge how much of it is her fault?

Mum needs to stop demonising this poor girl and to take a cold hard look at her (mums) part in this problem. I hope she spends her fee on getting some instruction in restarting this relationship properly.
She needs "supernanny" type help.

How can she be so naive about her part in this?

Lilygran Thu 11-Jul-13 14:25:08

Or this one? I'm Soooo glad I'm not teaching any more!