Zimmerman found not guilty

So, "the teenager punched their client, slammed his head into the pavement and reached for Mr Zimmerman's gun." He did n' t intend to be "unarmed" for long did he? Must have been a hard one to judge.

An insult to MOGGSY, Noodles.

This enormous guy followed Martin for quite a while and then apprehended him, for no reason whatsoever than being black in a white area - not armed, not having committed any crime- Martin must have be terrified and in fear for HIS life. What was he supposed to do? Faced with a guy twice his size - he could hardly just hold him at bay by the scruff of his neck, could he?
And of course when he realised the guy was armed, he tried to reach and disarm him!!! What was he supposed to do for goodness sake.

I am quite prepared to accept that Martin may not have been an angel- does that mean that he could just be shot. Unarmed and not doing anything wrong.

Time to re-read 'to kill a mocking bird' and think. How many black people were on the Jury btw?

In the circumstances, in fear for his life against a huge armed man- martin should have been able to file for self-defense ... he would still be on deaf row by now.

An interesting article about culture and the witness who was talking on the phone with Treyvon Martin just before the incident.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3525805

deaf row?

Great Anno - we are talking about a really serious case here, a young man shot for being black in the wrong place - and your contribution amounts to mocking a spelling mistake made by a furiner. I am disappointed as your are normally the voice of reason and compassion here. A shame.

Granjura You were actually there and did you see and hear everything that happened? If you can't answer 'yes' to that question, then you don't know - you're surmizing and assuming like everyone else.

I didn't insult MOGSSY but as you seem to think I did, well, what can I say. I am deeply offended that you have made that claim.

We were not there; we didn't hear all the details as did the jury; we cannot make a judgement based on the colour of skin - black man kills white youth; black man kills black youth; white man kills etc. Someone died at the hands of someone else is all that is relevant, and the circumstances. We must not make judgements based on information given out in the media, slanted, interpreted, reported depending on their policies and own prejudices.

We invented the judicial system and must have faith in it and not make individual judgements from the outside looking in.

And getting angry and abusive doesn't win any arguments, just stirs up more anger and abuse.

Do not need to re-read Mockingbird. Judge with brains not emotions. There are more comprehensive laws these days.

I think the boy probably overeacted, and probably so did Zimmerman. Good job the jury knew more about it than we do.

Nanban how right you are about saying' angry and abusive'. This is a difficult subject and open to all sort of mis-information and heated debate on various parts. Sadly a young man lost his life - and another young man has shot him and appears to have got away with it. The challenge is, is it because the youth was black? Being Florida probably.

Some more on the case – criticism of NBC.

That's interesting, Bags. I looked for more information, after reading that article. I hadn't read about NBC being responsibe for manipulating the 911 call, by splicing two separate parts gether and missing out the context of Zimmerman's words, till just now.

Zimmerman is suing on the basis that '.....the 911 call was edited. On one of the NBC News broadcasts, on “Today” on March 27, Zimmerman is heard on the call telling the dispatcher, of Martin, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.” ..........'

But Zimmerman did not say the two sentences in sequence. His comment, “He looks black,” was made after the dispatcher asked him if Martin was “white, black or Hispanic?” This was missed out on that broadcast.

Whether he'll win his suit now he's been acquitted is yet to be determined, but the effect on the supporters of Trayvon Martin might not have been as damaging. How irresponsible of NBC to broadcast that tampered-with tape.

RIVER , we are over in the States alot when some of these caes come up and like you are always rather surprised how openly things are discussed before anything comes to trial !

Hmmm

Noodles, this : Your diatribes are the sort of psuedo-socialist ravings that bore me to tears,

seems to me pretty insulting. What is even more insulting is that someone cares about a young man being shot for no other reason than being black in the wrong neighborhood- somebody is concerned and it:

bores you to tears. That is very insulting to the young man and his family, in my book.

I thought it was a boring diatribe too.

Insults or otherwise between GNers are not the point of this thread. I suggest you drop it, jura, for the sake of discussing the subject.

If only...........the neighbourhood watch didn't carry a gun in that community.

Zimmerman's lawyer is apparently getting ready to bring a case against NBC for their 'mis-editing' of Zimmerman's call.

Zimmerman isn't white himself.

You could almost say that the reaction to the case is racist.

That thought had crossed my mind too.

Another thought that occurred to me is that you don't need to wear a hoodie in Florida in summer.

Or do you?

I just wondered if it was the hoodie that troubled Zimmerman.

It is a sad and terrible case.

Your forensic antennae are on high alert, bags. Interesting point!

I don't think young people dress according to the weather, but according to what is in fashion. My own girls used to stand at the bus-stop shivering in their school cardigans when I had bought them warm coats. And the girls who are out in towns at the weekends are dressed as if they are in Ibiza instead of Newcastle or Manchester.

Bags it was February.