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felice Wed 28-Aug-13 17:26:01

i live in Brussels and have become used to 'BRUSSELS' being blamed for everything which goes wrong in the little Island of the coast of the rest of Europe, even though it was the sub-prime lending in the US which caused your recession. Why does the British government think it has the right to interfere in other countries conflicts. Ok it is awful but did they interfere in Rwanda, the Congo, as there are still bombs being picked up by school children in Northern Ireland should they just get the Uk sorted before they get into another Iraq or Afganistan, i have Military family and we do not want to lose any more sons and daughters.

thatbags Wed 28-Aug-13 17:31:06

I think a recent yougov poll says that the majority of people in the UK do not support intervention in Syria. The politicians may have their own ideas.

henetha Wed 28-Aug-13 18:07:21

Completely agree, felice. We should keep our noses out. How many more of our young military will be killed it we get involved in yet another conflict?
And why do we behave as if we are the police force of the world?
But Tony Blair took no notice of our, - the people's - wishes, and I doubt if this government will either.
How is it that when we, the people, elect a government they then go ahead and utterly ignore the wishes of the majority? Makes my blood boil!

But I am desperately sorry for the ordinary people in Syria. However, it should be up to the United Nations to intervene, not us. But the U.N. seems to be a toothless tiger and needs a complete overhaul.

felice Wed 28-Aug-13 19:39:27

Thanks both of you, it is a pity the so-called democratic elected Government tends to ignore the voice of the people, but I suppose you could say that you get the Government you vote for. I have Syrian friends, and they sent me a photograph of a Church service being held on the roof of the Cathederal in Damascus last Sunday, I also have Moslem friends there who sent other photographs of them trying to go to friday prayers. it is a civil war, sadly, and we must stay out of it. i just wish there was a way to help the ordinary people middle of it.

Nonu Wed 28-Aug-13 20:32:18

Henetha you cannot be serious ! comparing the odious self serving blair to the present government !


Galen Wed 28-Aug-13 20:50:46

I agree! Stay out!

Gagagran Wed 28-Aug-13 21:48:42

Me too Galen. Who appointed us as the world's police force? We seem to have learned nothing from Iraq and Afghanistan. Where is the Arab League when they are needed?

Galen Wed 28-Aug-13 21:49:44


henetha Thu 29-Aug-13 10:24:56

Well, I wasn't really comparing the present government to that of
Tony Blair ! smile. But I think governments of all colours tend to ignore the wishes of those who elect them.
Whatever, I fervently hope we do not get involved in Syria. Any interference would only escalate, in my humble opinion.

Nonu Thu 29-Aug-13 10:37:18

I agree Henetha .


Ariadne Thu 29-Aug-13 11:41:23

Blair, Cameron, all of them cannot be trusted and have proved it time and again. They are self serving, blinkered, and only pay lip service to listening to the voters.
Remember that poem I posted ages ago? "The silent people" by GK Chesterton.

"Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet."

The implication is that one day.....

whenim64 Thu 29-Aug-13 22:35:11

YES!! MPs have rejected the government's strategy on Syria. No intervention, even after the weapons inspection.

Ana Thu 29-Aug-13 22:37:43

Good. Watching Newsnight - seems a lot of Tories didn't vote as they'd said they would...

Galen Thu 29-Aug-13 22:43:16


whenim64 Thu 29-Aug-13 22:52:42

I heard there was a lot of swearing about the result! About time Cameron et al had their balloons popped.

j08 Thu 29-Aug-13 23:07:31

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

We should intervene.

sunseeker Fri 30-Aug-13 09:16:43

We should wait until the UN inspectors have made their report and then consider our position in the light of that report. Blair and Co lied to us because they wanted to back Bush in his war, I don't think Cameron is looking for regime change, he just wants to stop the use of chemical weapons by either side. But as I have said, we should wait until the UN inspectors have made their report.

I understand the Arab League have already said there should be some intervention, but whether they are prepared to do that themselves or expect the west to do it I don't know

whenim64 Fri 30-Aug-13 09:23:11

The best strategy would be for the Arab League to lead on peaceful intervention, with the support of the rest of the world. Why don't we hear about progress on that front, when they are clearly holding talks?

AlieOxon Fri 30-Aug-13 09:24:41

I don't understand why they voted before the inspectors made their report?

bluebell Fri 30-Aug-13 09:31:37

Maybe because its irrelevant what the inspectors find

Gally Fri 30-Aug-13 09:53:10

I am just a simple Mum and Granny. I don't know a huge amount about the intricacies of politics. I try to put myself in the position of the ordinary inhabitant of Syria, imagine it happening here, in the UK, to my family, to my children and to my neighbours and wonder what I would want to happen. I really don't know, but I would certainly want assistance from somewhere, but whether I would want the help to involve all out war which would endanger our nation even more or whether I would want it through the UN or some other organisation, I don't know. I just know I would want it all to stop, now. It is horrific.

janthea Fri 30-Aug-13 09:58:16

I think Cameron was damned if he did and damned if he didn't Very difficult situation. No one wants to go to war, but how can anyone stand by and see child dying horribly.

I don't know what the solution is. I agree we can't just send troops. We aren't the policemen of the world. The Arab world should be doing something and not just standing by. The UN should be stronger.

finocchio Fri 30-Aug-13 10:03:45

I would like to see non-arms intervention providing substantial humanitarian support for the many displaced and injured citizens of Syria. Perhaps safe corridors might be possible?

MiceElf Fri 30-Aug-13 10:07:43

'Getting involved in an argument that is none of your business is like going down the street and grabbing a dog by the ears'.

felice Fri 30-Aug-13 10:20:42

I am very heartened by all the responses on here, and the fact that many politicians seem to have thought about the matter and not gone all gung-ho, off we go to war. few of them will have family on the front line in battle. The Arab League seem quite toothless at times, and perhaps it is time the Countries who are taking in and trying to care for the many refugees who should be doing more talking and recieving proper aid to care for the many poor souls they have accepted into their countries. Another problem is of course that the people lucky enough to have funds to leave Syria and go to safer countries is that they tend to be the educated citizens, leaving a void in the infastructure of the country. I just pray that a solution can be found soon.