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vanessa feltz

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damson Wed 15-Jan-14 15:00:04

Just seen this on mumsnet and have to say I am slightly aghast! Can't imagine my DDs being very happy were i to tell them i felt like breastfeeding any of my grandchildren... confused
[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/1967494-Vanessa-Feltz-wants-to-breastfeed-her-grandson]

Ana Thu 16-Jan-14 18:39:11

Yes, but they'd already be lactating as well.

Elegran Thu 16-Jan-14 18:59:48

Wet nurses were chosen from "respectable" women who had a child already and were lactating. (They had to be respectable because the child was thought to ingest more than just milk - they could pick up loose morals if the woman wasn't all she should be, and her own baby had been born out of wedlock.)

Often she was feeding both her own child and that of her employer, but sometimes she had to wean her own early to fulfil her obligations.

Aka Thu 16-Jan-14 19:21:11

I don't accept I put my foot in anything Jess and neither was I insensitive, deliberately or otherwise.

Nonu Thu 16-Jan-14 19:22:30

you say wean her own child , how did that child survive , there wasn"t Mothercare in those days with all the things on offer, that Mums couldn't live with out + baby jars of food !

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 16-Jan-14 19:28:03

Everyone makes jokes about Vanessa Feltz! How could anyone take offence at that one of Aka' s? hmm Ridiculous.

Ana Thu 16-Jan-14 19:30:37

Nonu, the child would have been fed bread and cow's milk, mashed potato, ordinary food etc. They were probably breastfed for longer then anyway!

Tegan Thu 16-Jan-14 19:38:58

I'm sure someone told me my mum's cousin's adopted son was fed on evaporated milk with whiskey in it [the whiskey only being sometimes].

JessM Thu 16-Jan-14 19:48:34

Sometimes their own children took second place (and may have died) nonu or even had to be left with relatives if the baby being fed was high born. But remember that some women feed twins or even triplets.
I don't see why a woman that had fed lots of babies when faced with a grandchild who needed feeding might not re-lactate easily before the child died, as long as the baby was willing to suck a lot for a day or two, like they do on a dummy.

Ana Thu 16-Jan-14 20:00:19

Hmm...a day or two? I'm not convinced.

Aka Thu 16-Jan-14 20:06:10

I've known this happen with dogs. Two of our pups went to a home that already had an elderly, virgin bitch. She started to mother them, lick them, snuggle up with them. The puppies, even though they were weaned, tried to suckle her and she start lactating within 24 hours.
Nature is amazing.

Ana Thu 16-Jan-14 20:07:30

Oh well, it must be true of humans too then...wink

Nonu Thu 16-Jan-14 20:14:58

Jess , I did breast feed twins , as it happens .

Nonu Thu 16-Jan-14 20:20:30

Only thing is that my 20 month old kept bouncing up and down on the bed , so it was all a bit fraught, to say the least. me and the babies were going from side to side .
Had to end sad to say . there you go !!
slighty sad.

Aka Thu 16-Jan-14 20:23:36

I wish I could draw nonu! The picture you have created in my head.....

Nonu Thu 16-Jan-14 20:30:28

Aka I smile now , at the time it was a bit of a nightmare .
Still I survived to tell the tale !!
wine Thursday , might just have a small one !

Lona Thu 16-Jan-14 20:31:22

Blimey Nonu, I thought I was bad enough with two in eleven months two weeks! grin

Judthepud2 Thu 16-Jan-14 20:48:12

Thanks for your info Jess. Really fascinating. Have you known anybody to actually do this? I too lived for a time in Africa Papaoscar and saw family members helping out with baby feeding but usually they were young woman. Saw older women looking after the older children and nursing mothers but never breast feeding.

Frankly, I just wouldn't fancy it myself at this time of life. Especially as I am missing a bit of the necessary equipment!

TriciaF Thu 16-Jan-14 21:21:46

As I wrote on another thread, my DIL managed to breast feed an adopted baby when she was in her late 40s.
She has no children of her own.

JessM Thu 16-Jan-14 21:43:40

quite an achievement triciaF and not for the fainthearted.

Judthepud2 Fri 17-Jan-14 11:04:22

Respect to your DIL Tricia! Amazing.

Tegan Fri 17-Jan-14 11:52:00

You know, I've learned a lot of things since I've been on gransnet, with the wealth of knowledge that's on here but I think this is the most amazing thing I've learned thus far. I sort of want to go out and tell people [but it's not the sort of thing that crops up in every day conversation sad]. I also wonder if the idea that you need a 'decent' wet nurse may not have a slight grain of truth to it in that perhaps breast feeding a baby that has, perhaps come from a troubled family imparts more than just food and comfort to the child? Fascinating. I also wonder if adoptive parents are told about this?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 17-Jan-14 12:33:56

Right. Who's going to go out and buy a breast pump and have a go?

Elegran Fri 17-Jan-14 12:37:21

Not me. I did my bit forty-eight years ago - not very successfully, gave up in the end of resorted to the bottle (with great success)

Bottle for baby, not me, though a drop of the hard stuff would have been very welcome, I was so stressed about it all.

Riverwalk Fri 17-Jan-14 12:42:44

I assume they are Tegan.

I knew someone who adopted a baby 37 years' ago and she was told.

JessM Fri 17-Jan-14 12:52:57

don't think a breast pump would work from a standing start. More suction than suck-ing, but I could be wrong. Would you like to do the experiment jingle - and we could publish the results on this thread? Along with the video?