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Rolf Harris

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NanKate Thu 15-May-14 09:58:25

As the trial continues I notice that every photo I see of Rolf going into court his wife is grinning widely and Rolf appears to be supported physically by his family.

Whatever the truth is I wish his wife didn't look as if they were going to a party. Also Rolf has always been quite sprightly, I wonder if his new demeanour is being put on.

What do you think ?

GillT57 Wed 02-Jul-14 17:22:21

as he did not take into account the age of his victims, he cannot expect the judiciary to take into account his age when passing sentence.

whenim64 Wed 02-Jul-14 17:28:15

Rowan how insensitive to phone your daughter to say he had support! Sounds like someone who didn't understand the victim support worker responsibilities they had taken on. Their job was to inform the family of imminent release and find out if there were any concerns that could reasonable be addressed, like ensuring he stayed out of their way.

rosesarered Wed 02-Jul-14 17:38:29

You can still love the person but not the deeds.I don't think his age should be a consideration, whatever sentence he gets he will only serve half of it.

rosequartz Wed 02-Jul-14 17:53:34

That is right, Gill57. Age should not be a consideration in sentencing.
Rowantree, your daughter is a very brave girl; she did the right thing but so often the victims are not offered the support and understanding that the perpetrators are. It is good that she has you to support and help her.

rosequartz Wed 02-Jul-14 17:57:04

Well, I could not still love the person, as he would not be the same person that I thought I knew and loved. He would have been maintaining a pretence, so you would have been loving a sham, an illusion, not the true character which was something else altogether.

TriciaF Wed 02-Jul-14 18:18:44

I'm in agreement with one or two others on here who have said, or implied, that very few people are completely wicked.
Rolf Harris had a very pleasant social side to him, which could have been all false, or natural.
Some men who have been sexual predators have worked on themselves, with help, and reformed, but rarely are they given a chance to live in the outside world again. Saw this on an American TV programme about a specialist prison for sex offenders.

whenim64 Wed 02-Jul-14 18:25:51

That's a very difficult dilemma to deal with, isn't it? I've always felt that my children, now they are adults, might do things I don't like or approve of but they still have my unconditional love and if they had a serious problem I would want to be there to support them whilst they dealt with it. No excuses, and I would probably be their harshest critic for quite some time. I certainly wouldn't condone or collude with them in avoiding the consequences of their actions, and wouldn't excuse any pleas to lighten up and promote contact with children if they presented the slightest risk. Safe for me to say, I suppose, because I'm not in that position. If it was my husband (haven't got one now) I would not be anything like as forgiving. I can't express how angry and vengeful I would feel - I don't know how I would stay rational!

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 09:35:12

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johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 09:52:21

Did anyone see the big argument last night it was very heated what did people think about this person kizzy comments

Aka Thu 03-Jul-14 09:58:01

This often happens when schools break up. Many of us have young grandchildren so we recognise the immature poster!

Aka Thu 03-Jul-14 09:59:26

Couldn't be arsed bothered to reply myself and likewise I'm off out now.

Aka Thu 03-Jul-14 10:00:15

Unless of course it's e e cummings in disguise!

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 10:01:09

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whenim64 Thu 03-Jul-14 10:01:30

Thanks johnnycash I have no problem with you not agreeing with me. smile

whenim64 Thu 03-Jul-14 10:06:42

I wonder why you think I was upset, johnnycash? If you read back, I made a humorous comment. Having worked with sex offenders for many years, I have been on the receiving end of some extreme insults - some quite creative and others that had me running to another room for a good laugh with colleagues before going back to address them in a professional manner. grin

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 10:11:10

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Dragonfly1 Thu 03-Jul-14 10:14:00

Oh dear, the children are playing again.

Ana Thu 03-Jul-14 10:17:11

a) It wasn't 'last night' it was yesterday lunchtime, and
b) It wasn't a 'big argument', nor did it get in any way 'heated'.

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 10:19:37

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rosequartz Thu 03-Jul-14 10:21:00

Best way, whenim. Anyway, it is their problem, not yours. smile

whenim64 Thu 03-Jul-14 10:21:31

Yes, I did johnnycash. I think you're trying to ignite a damp squib. Why don't you go and stir things up somewhere else?

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 10:21:59

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Ana Thu 03-Jul-14 10:24:55

It was yesterday lunchtime.

johnnycash Thu 03-Jul-14 10:25:12

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