Little Minx

My ex used to call his brother 'W***er' in a jokey way, but his mum (not knowing what it meant & thinking it was just a nickname) used to shout it out to call him in from the garden for his dinner. We couldn't believe it when we heard her doing it & she was so when we enlightened her!!

A few good chuckles on this thread with misunderstandings - something good has come of the sad situation with your son Thistledoo, I hope you don't mind us having a laugh and I'm glad these comments have made you smile too

I'm also curious about the 'Nigel' thing; I don't know anyone called Nigel but it might be worth finding one now

Nigel means nothing to me, but I associated Nicholas with nickel arse, aka tin bum, rather than knickerless.

I associated Nicholas with nickel arse, aka tin bum

Oh that made me laugh

I do remember one of my aunts singing something that went a little like: oh Nicholarse don't be so ridicularse (can't remember the rest as my cousins and I were usually giggling at that point).

Hollydaze I seem to remember it goes on something like "I don't like it in the morning"

Another gender difference.

I'm glad it is familiar to someone else Elegran - I often wonder if I have imagined most of this stuff!

Found it! The Youtube version of Billy cotton and his band playing/singing it has apparently been pulled because of multiple complaints about copyright. I could hum you the tune, but I can't post it. Here are the words, though. I think the second line should be something about Nicholas working nights.

"OH NICHOLAS! DON'T BE SO RIDICULOUS
(Kennedy, Castling)

A great misunderstanding, enough to make you sob,
Nicholas was working but underneath his job.
He's saw his girl by day
He'd kiss her and she'd say

Oh, Nicholas, don't be so ridiculous,
Cos I don't like it in the day time.
Oh, Nicholas, though I like you, Nicholas,
I don't like kisses in the day time.
Afternoon or evening that's too soon;
Nighttime's the right time, under a lovely moon.
Oh, Nicholas, don't be so ridiculous,
Cos I don't like it in the day time.

You said going dancing would be heaven,
And I agreed to meet you at eleven.
I couldn't do the samba while I'm yawning.
I didn't mean eleven in the morning. No!

Oh, Nicholas, don't be so ridiculous,
Cos I don't like it in the day time.
Oh, Nicholas, though I like you, Nicholas,
I don't like kisses in the day time.
Things you have to wait for seem so right -
Let's make a date for seven o'clock tonight.
Oh-oh, Nicholas, don't be so ridiculous,
Cos I don't like it in the day time.

Oh, Nicholas, don't be so ridiculous,
Cos I don't like it in the day time.
Oh, Nicholas, though I like you, Nicholas,
I don't like kisses in the day time.
Weddings in a day dress make me sob;
If I should say yes, make it an evening job.
Oh, Nicholas, isn't it ridiculous,
That I don't like it in the day time.

Source: youtube video of Billy Cotton And His Band Decca disc F9360(DR 14566) "

Yah hurrah ( clapping of hands) encore [fowers] take a bow

obviously

Thank you, thank you, my faithful fans.

It seems to date back to Music Hall about 1906. Sideways references to sex in the mornings, not like the full-frontal stuff they bawl about these days. Not as intense and aggressive and much less stressful.

MiniMouse I can hardly stop laughing at your post - priceless.

It reminds me of my Mum and I who were such great pals. I called her by her Christian name, the same as mine, Kate and I would often swear at her, but in a very playful way - she loved it.

One day I came home from work and she was down the garden talking to one of the maiden ladies (as we used to call them) who lived next door.Not realising this was happening I shouted loudly.

'Kate where's my bleeding tea, I'm hungry' !

My mother and I collapsed with laughter when she came in and she told me what I had done. Up until that moment the ladies next door thought I was a naice girl !

Oh for goodness sake. There are a lot of words that used to have different 'meanings' years ago that now have completely different connotations. I remember when 'gay' was taken out of the Noddy stories, it used to mean happy but was no longer considered to be politically correct. Wicked used to be an insult but is now used when some thing is seen as 'cool'.

Your son was being totally unreasonable Thistledoo and should be old enough to know that spending all of his time on his mobile 'phone when visiting his parents is shear bad manners. He should also know you well enough to know that you would never have said what you did had you realised it was offensive.

What's the matter with that generation, and I include my own sons in that statement, they seem to go out of their way to find fault with their own parents. It is he who should be apologising.for you Thistledoo.

Elegran, you have a lovely voice

Nicholas was one of the names I considered for DS, glad I didn't pick it now! In fact, DH didn't like any of my choices. I did think he might get called Knickerless though.

Enid Blyton's characters often used to have queer adventures or felt a little queer. Must go through my old books and delete any references before I give them to DGC.

And don't even think of letting them near any Noddy books featuring You-Know-Whats...

I was reading a Noddy book to my 3 year old GS recently and noticed how it had been modernised to represent our diverse community. To be honest I much prefer the original version with the cute black g.......s and the chap with large auditory appendages.

However, I noticed the female doll had been rather sexualised, to be honest I don't remember a female doll in the original.

My grandparents were in the Music Hall and my Grandmother wrote the scripts. Grandad would make jokes on stage about his wife, which would now be deemed inappropriate. My Nan would laugh as she had written the jokes.

I miss the politically incorrect UK where people could tease each other without taking exception.

Smileless, please don't generalise about the younger generation. I have no complaints about my two and I don't think they have any grounds for complaint about me.

Agreed, Anno. My children are considerate and respectful, even though they do tease a little. I think 'that generation' are lovely and a credit to their parents, although there may be one or two exceptions.

Thistledoo, when I read your post, my heart turned over and I felt so sad for you. I'd have cried, definitely - because your DS's treatment of you was unjust and over the top. He MUST know how much you love your DGD and that you'd never do or say anything hurtful. Knowing that, if he objected to the use of a term, a jokey, quiet aside would have been appropriate, not this hormonal huff of dramatically walking out! What on earth did they tell the children??? It must feel utterly horrible for you and no wonder you got no sleep. You are obviously a loving, caring and lovely mother and grandmother and your DS and his family should be very glad that they have you at all. I really hope they come down to earth (or remove their collective heads from up their backsides) and have the humility to apologise to you. .

for anyone who might have mislaid theirs

Perhaps we've insulted thistledoo's DS enough now?!

I loved the halo jingle.

Thistledo has had a very upsetting experience, to put it mildly. I do hope things move on with no further conflict thistle x

T-Doo, your DS should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. Give him a good dressing-down and demand an apology! Minnie the Minx was a harmless cartoon character, I think, a very long time ago.

Thanks jingle mines gone a bit rusty

Looked up Minnie and confirmed she was a harmless girl comic character in the Beano in the 1950s, so your DS, T-Doo, was totally out of order. That prompted me to think what we could do when faced with that sort of situation and I had an idea. Does anybody remember the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition who would appear at any time and cause mayhem. We could have a Flying Granset Team of Judges who would turn up and sort out family transgressors on the spot in very loud voices and dole out penalties. Any volunteers?

Have you read the other posts on this thread, papaoscar, giving other interpretations of the word 'minx'? It's not just about Minnie any more (apparently!).