Christian Family face possible legal action

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Ham-fisted equal rights

Last week I wrote about the bakery run by Christians that is being taken to the Equalities Commission after refusing to bake a gay cake.

Now a cashier in a Tesco store in North-West London has refused to sell a woman ham because it violated his deeply held Muslim beliefs.

No action has been taken over this. No threat of legal action.

No surprise. by Amanda Platell.

And no negative comments on here either! I'm surprised.

Sorry's just the hardest word, isn't it Jingl?

Well, I would have started a separate thread tbh.

No, not at all. If I felt I had anything to apologise for I would do so.

So would a gay bakery have willingly stuck a slogan saying 'ban gay marriage' on a cake for the town hall, because it did not endorse their beliefs? This has all the hallmarks of a set up and taxpayers money will be used to sort it out.
The change in attitude from persecution is a great advance, but saying that people who disagree with you or stand firm in beliefs which don't match yours are wrong and should be prosecuted is another form of persecution.

What an opportunity for gay bakers to set up store in that town. There is obviously a great demand for their services.

Why didn't he bake a cake and then get someone else whodosnt object to homosexuality, to write the slogan?

Dear HollyDaze
Please - what is this ''... gay cake.'' you bake?
Do you also bake Trans cakes - made with trans fats perhaps ?
And as for Apple Tarts ....and chocolate eclairs...pheeew !

I live in the local area of the Bakery under discussion and an excellent establishment it is with several outlets with coffee shops. My understanding is that there was no difficulty in baking the cake, it was the slogan that they would not do.

In all the years that I've bought their products, used their local coffee shops, I did not know that it was a 'Christian Bakery'.

And certainly from my own point of view the incident does not appear to have affected their custom.
Their shops still appear to be as busy as ever.

There is the small factory where everything is baked and there are two of their bakery shops within walking distance, it seems that although the matter is getting a lot of national publicity, here in the area all goes on as it always has, the matter was on the news, in the press... and since the first time the news broke I don't think I've even heard anyone mention it.....

Shows it's just the press building it up.

I think I'd like a cake with the slogan "This cake is gay" or "I am a gay cake". Can't decide which I prefer? Help me, gransnetters!

I would just like a cake. #soddingdiet

"I'm Gay - Try Me!"

I would, Ana, but I'm the wrong gender for you, however if you're ''Bi'' ......

From cakes and Christianity to leering....

Whaaat?! Totally.

Are you a woman LovingMan?

Or do you mean wrong orientation?

My whaaat? was to LM. Not A.

Thanks, jingl!

Having read all the posts on this, I think it really was a set up.However it does make you think about our 'rights' doesn't it? I had always thought that a shop did not have to serve you if it didn't want to [unkempt, smelly, drunk, disorderly etc] what if you were black or gay and all those other things besides?Can you imagine the fall out? This town hall should have better things to do [with our money] than host Bert and Ernie [weird!] cakes with gay slogans.If the cake shop did not want this commission, then surely it has every right to refuse it?Just as it may not wish to decorate a cake with the slogan 'support communism' or any other thing, which is lawful [to support] but the shop manager does not agree with.Hopefully we have not gone so far down the road in this country that we cannot stand by our own views but that we are fearful of litigation.I agree with Lilygran and her posts on here on this one.No shop should ever refuse to serve somebody for reasons of colour/race etc but this cake decorating thing is another matter.The other thing is the Bert/Ernie cake choice, they were popular childrens characters from Sesame Street and everyone knows that.Not meant to be gay at all.Ridiculous.

Of course this thing was ''set up'', and probably the local, regional and national press, on all sides was warned.
The business of wearing religious symbols are set up too - its free publicity, no?
Interesting that the Sun - Fake Sheik has been rumbled, Max Clifford is in gaol for a long time, C of E is to have Women Bishops, and the Conservatives support Gay / Les. marriages - so maybe we'll get less Press push for these cake, crosses, and double bed stories, please.

J B F, is that not a type of running with a Sat Nav in the woods?
No I am not, are you?

Oh dear - what a mess. The cake shop people were being ridiculous, but I would just have cheerfully gone elsewhere and told the gay community and friends not to use that bakery. After all, as a left-winger I would not have wanted to decorate a cake with right wing slogans. Or religious slogans for that matter.

PS
But business is business, and as long as they words were not extreme or offensive to most other people I would probably just go ahead and do the work.

PPS I'm a Yorkshire woman though: such a decision might seem a bit dirty, we know that 'where there's muck there's brass (money)'.

Well I was wrong on this when I said I thought they wouldn't be prosecuted - they were, and found guilty.

Cake

I'm very surprised.