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The Guardian is Sexist!

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petallus Tue 30-Sep-14 08:36:21

AIBU to totally object to the answer to one of the clues in yesterday's Quick Crossword (13850) in the Guardian Newspaper?

The clue was 'ill tempered woman' and the answer was, wait for it, 'old bag'.

GrannyTwice Tue 30-Sep-14 08:59:21

Utterly shocked shock

vampirequeen Tue 30-Sep-14 09:00:57

That's awful. I don't mind being a shrew but I'm not an old bag.

hildajenniJ Tue 30-Sep-14 09:03:59

Is that the best they could come up with? "old bag". I thought The Guardian would have a better vocabulary than that. I am disappointed in them.

Jane10 Tue 30-Sep-14 09:04:01

Unfortunately I am!

Ana Tue 30-Sep-14 09:06:28

It's not even accurate - if someone's rude enough to refer to a woman as an 'old bag' it's not necessarily because of her ill-temper.

Soutra Tue 30-Sep-14 09:21:37

The answer to "ill tempered woman" is surely " harridan". If they wanted a clue for "old bag" they might have tried "used carrier"?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Sep-14 09:37:35

Obviously used the office junior to compile the crossword that day. hmm

Reminds me of the Sainsburys "Take an old bag shopping" campaign.

Soutra Tue 30-Sep-14 09:41:31

That was as good a reason to boycott Sainsbury's as any! Bl***y cheek!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Sep-14 09:42:53

Yes. Pity we didn't have Gransnet at that time. We would have given them hell!

petallus Tue 30-Sep-14 09:47:20

The crossword compiler is the usual bloke. There were objections in the comments section beneath the online version of the crossword.

Gracesgran Tue 30-Sep-14 09:47:46

I have to agree with Soutra. I am more offended by the paucity of the clue than the possible sexism smile

Jane10 Tue 30-Sep-14 09:47:53

Sense of humour alert? If they`re going to post us as old bags lets really go for! Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb. I plan to be a really awkward old cow today. Will probably get away with it too. Advanced age has its benefits wink

petallus Tue 30-Sep-14 10:16:56

The clue did not refer to an old ill-tempered woman, just itw.

Presumably a 30 year old could be called an old bag by this crossword compiler.

Okay, maybe I'm lacking a sense of humour but which of us would not feel annoyed if, say, someone said 'shut up you old bag' in response to a complaint or criticism?

Ana Tue 30-Sep-14 10:20:50

How on earth would people know what 'itw' was? confused

Is it a common abbreviation?

thatbags Tue 30-Sep-14 10:44:43

Well said, jane10. Such a clue says more about the bloke who used it than about anyone else. He's obviously a twat. Signed thatoldbags.

ffinnochio Tue 30-Sep-14 11:36:26


Ana Tue 30-Sep-14 11:40:12

Perhaps it meant 'in the wardrobe'?

That's where a lot of my old bags go to die...

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Sep-14 13:04:33

Yes, go for it Jane10! Think I've already joined you. Had a bit of an argy-bargy the other day with a cafe owner who was downright rude to my DH.

Was kicking myself on Saturday though when a shop assistant managed to call me "dear", "darling", and "sweetheart", over the course of one single transaction! hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Sep-14 13:05:54

(and I said nothing!)

Starling Tue 30-Sep-14 21:37:41

The offending item is at :

It has the full clue in this online version.

petallus Tue 30-Sep-14 22:02:15

Sorry! Itw was my abbreviation, not the Guardian's.

vampirequeen Wed 01-Oct-14 00:24:59

Oh dear jinglbellsfrocks you'd hate it where I live. Everyone is called 'love'. So you are greeted in shops by 'Yes love what can I get you?'

I think it's nice to use generic terms of endearment in general conversation. It makes everything friendlier.

petallus Wed 01-Oct-14 09:08:48

I don't mind love and dear but I don't like old bag. I'd rather be called a bitch or hag.

petallus Wed 01-Oct-14 09:14:16

Actually I am up North in Manchester visiting DD at the moment so I am expecting a few loves when I go out shopping later.

I do like Manchester.