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Don't like family gatherings

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Chickenbrain2009 Sat 27-Dec-14 12:12:36

I find that I increasingly dont like being together as a family. I get on well with my children as individuals, but when they are all together somehow I often find myself feeling hurt or upset. The end result is that I am increasingly avoiding being anywhere where they are all together.

I dont like crowds and I increasingly hate Christmas.

Its small things, which, if I had any common sense I would ignore. For example, I coloured my hair. My elder daughter invited us all to meet for lunch, but when we were together my younger daughter told me she didnt like my hair. The others agreed with her. My younger daughter had a party at her house, when I arrived my family were all together as a group ie my children - two other sons and a daughter plus one partner. The first thing they did when I joined them was to all spend a couple of minutes joking about how aweful my hair was. I felt that I was under a barrage of criticism. Of course after a couple of minutes I went to sit down on my own..

On Christmas day as a present for under the tree I had made my daughter a cushion. When she opened it she made no secret of the fact she didn't like it. I was left on the staircase. Sometime during the day it disappeared completely. I noticed it was nowhere in her house. I suspect she had just thrown it out with all the other rubbish.

Later on I went to the loo, all my children agreed that I had made a horrible smell. I didn't notice any smell myself, I may have done, but I left the toilet clean.

A few weeks ago it got back to me that at a meal I wasn't at they had been joking about my toilet in my house being covered with crap, even on the seat. I won't go into how it got back to me, but I did ask my younger daughter if it was true, who denied it strongly.

Am I being over sensitive? Somehow I end up really not wanting to be with them when they are all together, as it seems to give people permission to say or do these things.

I have tried asserting myself back, and I have tried telling them it upsets me, both to no avail The result is that I increasingly just don't want to be around, however that just cuts me off. I just end up feeling hurt. I just wonder how they would feel if I said the same things to them.

Ana Tue 30-Dec-14 19:40:17

Would spastic or spaz be OK then? Or moron? confused

I think most of us on here do associate all those words with medical conditions, and they're all (including 'cretin') deemed to be offensive these days.

For once I don't agree with you at all, jingl. (No, I know you couldn't care less! grin)

Marelli Tue 30-Dec-14 19:39:48

[shrug].....not entering into this.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Dec-14 19:29:46

Rubbish. Total.

Who the hell really connects cretin with a medical condition these days?

Elegran Tue 30-Dec-14 19:27:38

I think we saw the intention to be humorous, but did not feel it was funny - as it would not be funny if someone took the username "mongol" or "nigger".

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Dec-14 19:26:27

I seem to remember Cretin mentioning before the fact she lives on Crete.

I think people should stop taking things personally. It smacks of self pity. Or the need for others' sympathy.

Marelli Tue 30-Dec-14 19:25:51

Exactly, Galen. That was how it was described to us. I don't have a problem with it, jinglebellsfrocks. I just don't see the humour in it.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Dec-14 19:21:28

I think the humour in Cretin's name has passed you by. Dear posters. tchhmm

Galen Tue 30-Dec-14 18:12:11

The old name for congenital hypothyroidism

mrsmopp Tue 30-Dec-14 17:59:45

From Crete, a person would be Cretan, not cretin, surely?

Ana Tue 30-Dec-14 17:55:55

I'm surprised the username cretin didn't break GN's rules, but as it obviously didn't we'll have to accept it.

mrsmopp Tue 30-Dec-14 17:40:44

There is a new thread on why we chose our usernames over on Chat.
I'm looking forward to reading the replies!

Marelli Tue 30-Dec-14 16:19:23

Wasn't too keen on the name, either - though of course, it's the choice of the person herself. hmm
My eldest daughter was born without a thyroid gland and luckily she was diagnosed at 3 weeks old. The consultant said if she hadn't been diagnosed until much later, she would have been a 'cretin'......hence my feelings about the word (the consultant was of the 'old school', I think and this was 48 years ago). DD is perfectly fine, by the way. smile

Riverwalk Tue 30-Dec-14 16:11:26

Cretin I understand the play on words thing but it is quite startling to see the word in print.

If you lived in Mongolia would you style yourself Mong?

durhamjen Tue 30-Dec-14 16:01:24

I remember going to Crete and being on a coach with an American guide. She talked about the Cretins, and could not understand why half the tourists laughed. It was her first talk.

Cretin Tue 30-Dec-14 15:02:47

User names are a choice.
made in a moment when signing up to use gransnet ,mine chosen as I live in Crete, Greece and is a play on the word ... Simply that alone , there's nothing wrong with my self esteem I can assure you of that .

Sometimes people make judgements without knowing all the details ... Chickenbrain,I do hope one day your adult children realise how badly they have treated you, until then be good to yourself and make yourself a priority . Big hugs x

Smileless2012 Tue 30-Dec-14 14:52:22

jinglbellsfrockstchsmileflowers

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Dec-14 14:37:15

Yes. I guessed it was something like that Smileless.

I don't think it's good to randomly criticise posters' names.

Smileless2012 Tue 30-Dec-14 14:30:00

I have of course no idea why posters have chosen the user names that they have but I can assure you Stansgran that mine has nothing to do with low self esteem.

Having been estranged from my son and disallowed from having any contact with my only grand child since September 2012, when he was 8 months old, I smile less.

Tegan Tue 30-Dec-14 13:06:06

I think my problem is getting my head round the fact that, from the minute they were born I have always put my children before everything but now their careers seem to be important and I'm now expected to put the grandchildren before everything to accommodate that. Which I do because I'd rather care for them than have them go to after school clubs etc. Yes, there is some gratitude but that is overshadowed by expectation. I do think that there is a huge difference when you're on your own rather than being part of a couple, even more so with younger members of the family that aren't in relationships.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Dec-14 12:19:13

absent. I've been trying to figure out what your post meant. tchconfused tchgrin (I appreciate you are most likely tucked up in bed now though)

durhamjen Tue 30-Dec-14 10:38:09

Stansgran, I think you got the best of the bargain. I have winter tyres and it's sheet ice again today, so I will not even be going down to the village unless someone comes to pick me up. I cannot imagine how cold Hadrian's Wall will be today. As you say, it will still be there for us in the spring and summer.

Lona Tue 30-Dec-14 10:30:08

stansgran flowers
I would be heartbroken if my dc treated me this badly, it's a 'no win' situation.

Stansgran Tue 30-Dec-14 10:24:29

And I agree with Jane 10 about choices of names ? Cretin Chickenbrain and Smileless?

Stansgran Tue 30-Dec-14 10:22:05

I'm with some of these comments about the children taking advantage of making mock of the possibly aging parent. You can hear disparaging comments just in the shops. I wouldn't put up with it but if you're lonely perhaps you'll put up with anything.
I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself as we've made a lot of effort for a combined family Xmas(not our idea) and our SIL mentioned that as flights home were very expensive but cheaper on New Years Day so he had booked them then and would be staying with us til then! Of course they are made welcome BUT we stressed the need for a four wheel drive or similar rugged car given where we were staying in the Lakes and our own little microclimate in Durham . So the plan was to walk part of Hadrian's Wall today and guess what their super duper car can't be moved because of the icy road and as our car will only take three adults and two children I'm sitting here on Gransnet. No apology or regret from daughter just taken for granted that mum will not go. I've had a fragile relationship with her this last few years and don't want to rock the boat. I feel I'm being a good host giving up my seat in the car but DH is very very p* ed off. But Hadrian's Wall will be there next week I hope. Oh however well you think you've brought them up they can be awful b***ers. Started to sympathise with OP and ended up ranting. So sorry.

Jane10 Tue 30-Dec-14 10:09:03

I can put my hand up as a bad daughter. I remember saying something to my dear (now departed) Dad that I thought was hilarious. Obviously from the look on his face he didn't think so. I felt so bad. Still do when I think about and cringe. Its possible that chickenbrain`s (what does that self chosen name say about her self esteem level?) children now feel that same on an individual basis. Maybe she should offer them the opportunity to apologise. They may be appalled that they caused her to be so upset.