Jeremy Corbyn

I must allow you the last words on drives Anniebach, as it matters more to you than me, I don't have a council house, but I do have a drive.what has Hyacinth Bucket got to do with it, did she have a council house?

You never allow others to end a discussion rosesarered, you are the baiter supreme on this forum . End of discussion.

But.... I did allow you the last word on drives, you chose not to take it.
Baiter supreme?Hhmmn, sounds like one of Prince Charles' flunkies.

dj said: "Strange that most of the people on here are ones who would never vote Labour anyway".

Just out of curiosity, dj, do tell how you think assume I vote. I don't think I've ever mentioned it (might have done).

You know why many voted for Corbyn rosequartz

That's it.
Name Change Time!!
rosesarered wss here first I think, so I will defer

How about jemimacorbyn, does that sound good?

a leader should hear the people he leads , should speak for them not at them
He'd better hear loud and clear then, that many staunch Labour supporters, some of whom I know well, abhor his attitude to the IRA and other terrorist groups.

Wouldn't know about sci-fi rosesarered, never read it.
anniebach you don't know what you've missed; Aldous Huxley, H G Wells, George Orwell, Dennis Wheatley etc! I must have had a misspent youth lapping these up.

Just hope the subject of lounge v living room doesn't come up

Surely everyone everyone knows it's a sitting room!!

(Unless you're very posh in which case it's a drawing room.)

"Strange that most of the people on here are ones who would never vote Labour anyway"

Most? Are you a mind-reader?
Why is it strange?
and, if they are, which no-one can possibly know, Why Not?

I said most, thatbags. You are just one, so most might not include you.

Most is quite a lot though

As there are a number of people who do or have proclaimed to be left-wing JBC supporters on this thread, that leaves the 'rather less than most' wondering if they are included or not.

I realise that, dj. Still curious as to how you have labelled me.

Anyway, the point is, you cannot know, especially about 'most', unless people have specifically said (I know some people on GN have said how they vote) so it's a silly thing to say and saying such a thing says more about you than any of the supposed 'most' you referred to.

I think the reaction to the election of Jeremy Corbyn has been way over the top.

He is a maverick (look at the number of times he has refused to support his party on issues), a conviction politician voted into leadership by the mass votes of party members and activists. A political party leader such as we have not had before, but it doesn't therefore automatically follow that he will be a disaster, either as a leader of the opposition or even a prime minister.

To a certain extent all those decrying his election and dismissing his talents are actually helping to make him more credible because any time he does get something right it will be such a surprise his popularity rating will go up far higher than is justified.

I am reserving my opinion on him until he has been in position for at least six months.

Likewise. As I said yesterday, I'm not yet convinced that he is or will be a good party leader (actually I said political leader). If his behaviour as a leader is convincing over a longer time than we've had so far, I'll be convinced.

His appointment and the aura around it and him are interesting. Time will tell whether the interestingness leads to anything notable.

Less than 1% of the electorate have membership of the main political parties. And many Labour MPs did not vote for Corbyn as leader.

It is impossible to know how many Labour voters who are not party members support his policies or would have voted for him in an election.

Politics was due for a shake up. There were no real personalities any more. This was the appeal of the likes of Farrage, at least he was 'different' but many balked at what he stood for.

Then along came Nicola Sturgeon, a breath of fresh air, straightforward and seemingly honest, and the SNP swept out Labour from Scotland in the election, while Labour voters in England saw their party defeated.

When the leadership election then offered up someone as different as Jeremy Corbyn, no wonder party members voted him in. He broke the mould and his outspoken difference was what they wanted instead of the usual suited, mealy mouthed, placating politicians who've gone be before.

Love him or hate him or bemused and still making yiur mind up, at least politics is more interesting these days.

That's a good summing up of the situation surrounding the Labour leadership election, Anya.
He seems to be enjoying his time in the sun, but IMO can't possibly be there for long.However politics is ( like soccer) a 'funny old game' and as such, subject to all kinds of bizarre happenings.
So much will depend on the next few years, will we vote to leave the EU?
Will more and more people be employed,will all kinds of house building continue to burgeon( so much already where I live). Then there are the unknowns, the scandals, threats of war, etc.

Corbyn seems to interest those on the right, we have had his vest, his bike, his beard, his diet, his autumn holiday , really serious stuff !

Anniebach, I really don't think that anyone ' on the right' as you put it, is even posting on here! unless you mean on the right of the Labour Party?
The Corbynites are so defensive!

No one on the right here rosesarered ? Oh well

As I am a Lib Dem voter ( not much left of them now though) then I hardly qualify for the title, and you simply do not know how a lot of others vote who post on here, so do not make lazy assumptions.

You simply do not know how anyone votes - or how many are influenced against any particular party by the proselytising of enthusiastic supporters.

I am listening to the views of staunch Labour family members, to the left but not extreme left of the party, not just reading posts on here.
They are disappointed and struggling to find something positive to say (and they are most definitely not Blairites.)

elegran well said. The vitriol from some quarters of the Labour Party at the Government - and shouting epithets like "Tory scum" - is very off-putting too. Not very encouraging to new voters.

No, you don't ab. I'll add you to my mental list of gransnetters who make silly assumptions about other gransnetters. Not being quite sure about Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party is not right wing; it is not being quite sure about Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party and that is all.

You can extrapolate what you like from that but the odds are that your extrapolations will be wrong.