Personal cleanliness

Re: comment by Anniebach Tue 06-Oct-15 10:18:22

Not in my experience, if one were to speak quietly one would probably have been told where to get off (though not in a nice way). I think Indiana did right, they quite rightly should have been embarrassed.

Maybe it depends on what cycle you use, as certainly those who wish to sterilise jam jars for preserve-making do so in dishwashers. I should think any bacteria on metal would have a very long life - but I have to admit to worries about those bread boards that restaurants use instead of plates.

It always amuses me that surgical instruments have to be sterilised and yet cutlery that goes in to all sorts of unsavory mouths, is (if you're lucky) cleaned through a dishwasher, which though good, does not as far as I understand it, sterilise.

Don't start me on dishes that are hand washed.

Casawan keep posting they won't attack involve anyone but themselves in their robust and illuminating dialogue .

What feud indeed? A little healthy and animated discussion is all that is going on here!

I had sort of registered that you had a bit of a problem with dirt, jings but hadn't clicked how bad it was. I suppose the good thing is, at least you do realise. Some people haven't a clue that they are 100 times more anxious about it than anyone else, so can't comprehend why people seem to find them fussy/picky. My sister is one of them.

Oh! Thank you Elegran I didn't notice that before

Bertie123 it took me a while to work them out, some of them are further down the page if you look. I google the others.
Not sure what what'sngs means btw (by the way)

NT to me is National Trust. Has it got another significant meaning? Does anyone know?

Just go to the "Acronyms" button, at the right-hand end of the blue strip above the posts. All will be revealed! (unless someone invents another one to confuse you)

Does anyone have the same trouble as me trying to work out abbreviations on here.what's things like NT/ds/lol/oh.I give up in the end and don't bother to read:-(

What feud?
(You should see some of the other posters threads!)

Feud?!!!!

I love Indinana!

Casawan Where on earth did you get that about a feud between Indinana and Jinglebellsfrocks? I have reread this whole conversation specifically to look for any evidence and I see none at all. Do join in and let us hear your input on personal cleanliness. Go to other conversations and give us your input there, too. I promise you no-one will start a feud with you unless you are a party to it.

Well, I have been thinking about joining in but, frankly, I am put off by the level of sniping from some people, particularly the feud that seems to be going on between jinglbellsfrocks and Indinana. I was hoping for good discussion not intolerance and nit-picking criticism and such willingness to take offence. Do you two realise that you are acting as a deterrent to others joining?

My pet hate is staff dealing with cash as well as handling food, the money is filthy.
Also the butchers who delve in to the raw meat with their hands not wearing protective gloves or using the little raw meat scoops and then handle the money -Yeuch!

I cannot bring myself to eat anything from an outside mobile catering van. The staff handle the food, ie, bread rolls, wipe their hands down their aprons then take your germ filled money and move on to the next customer. UGH!! Anyone feel the same?

Well things are better than they were in the seventies! I remember buying loose bacon from a small shop. The girl did not wear gloves and she licked her fingers before peeling the slices apart.

I think a bit more knowledge helps. Raw meat can harbour bacteria - there is bacteria in the gut of all chickens, as there is in the guts of all of us, and even the most hygienic handling on its way to the shop won't keep all of it out.

But the good news - heard it yesterday from the same vet I spoke of earlier - is that after 12 weeks of age the incidence of salmonella in the chicken decreases rapidly, so the full-grown ones are safer than those usually sold as chicken portions in the supermarkets. Traditionally, chickens were not killed for the table at such an unnaturally early age as now under intensive rearing.

I'm with those who think a few germs do no one any harm. After all, you're removing the 'good' bacteria as well, when washing. I think braving some germs helps build up one's immune system. That said, I do take all sensible precautions, e.g. with raw chicken / washing hands after going to the toilet etc
But let's face it, however OCD you are, if you ever eat out - from the sleaziest coffee bar to the very best restaurants or hotels, - you have absolutely no control over what has happened in the kitchen. Even where there are the most stringent hygiene rules you can't really be sure that your plate of food isn't the one that someone sneezed over when no one was looking, or worse!

I was in a local healthfood cafe when the girl behind the counter gave me a cup that was dirty round the edges. When I complained, she licked her finger and ran it around the edge! I haven't been there since.

If someone else has said this already I apologise. We were told when growing up that everyone eats a peck of dirt before they die. Was that just country lore? By the way I have no idea how much a peck is,only it's relationship to a bushell and I don't know how much that is either.

The most germ-ridden object is a kitchen dishcloth so as long as you know that everything else is relative?

I do sympathise though jingl et al x

Yes. I do those two things too Gd.

Now I'm going to stop reading this thread. It could make me worse.

OCD is a nightmare. Sometimes literally.

I have taken to washing my hands after we've been on a bus or tram - there are times when I will change my trousers too, having had the distinct impression that someone with an incontinenece problem had been using the seat. Not that it was wet; just rather smelly! I clean the covers of library books when I get them home, which is very silly because the pages must carry just as many bugs.

I have taken several cheap flights this summer and each time I have lowered the tray to rest my book on. Every time it has been filthy with left over food. I quickly shut them up again. The cleaners obviously don't bother with that bit!

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I think we are a bit too over concerned with germs. Obviously care should be taken in certain circumstances - food handling, toilets, hospitals, and so on, but in general our immune system should be strong enough to deal with the everyday germs we encounter from door handles, menus, money, library books etc.
I love this picture I came across on FB, which says it all really